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Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 29 Dec 2016 01:28)
Ro 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. {in them: or, to them}
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: {so...: or, that they may be}
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. {more: or, rather}
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


didn't read cause retarded for sure
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anyway, one time, me and some of my protoss brethren had to crucify a guy named Jesus.

First we guarded him in prison, and Funny made a thorny crown for him. It was easy to make thorny crowns for us: we all had huge dexterity cause we were wearing phase blades, after all. Jesus didn't say much, but he kept making weird faces. Then the order came to crucify him, poor fellow. So bets were made how far he could carry his cross. But then Verso kicked him in the butt on the way, and he fell with his face in dirt. Bets had to be canceled. Then somebody said wtf we'd be better at Jacob's Pub, so the captain stabbed the poor fellow with his spear. He would've died anyway in a couple of hours. The captain is so smart! But the bartender was so happy with us spending customers!

So we reported at Pilatus a few hours later, that the Jesus job was done. Unfortunately Pilatus had a new job: guard some shmucks tomb cause he suspected troublemakers gona steal his body. I'll never understand them peasants.

On the way to the tomb, Fatso noticed a suposedly possesed pig at the market. So we had to un-possess it - by spilling imported egyptian beer over it while it was roasting at the camp fire.

Good times, good times ...

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The true good man is one who practices the law of justice, of love and charity, in its highest purity. He questions his conscience about his own acts, asks if he has not violated this law, if he has not done evil, if he has done all the good he could, if he did not willingly let go of an opportunity to be useful, if no one has anything to complain about him , In the end, he did to others what he wanted others to do for him.

Have faith in God, in his goodness, in his justice and in his wisdom; He knows that nothing happens without his permission, and submits himself in all things to his will.

He has faith in the future, and therefore puts spiritual goods above temporal goods.

He knows that all the vicissitudes of life, all pains, all disappointments, are proofs or atonement, and he accepts them without murmuring.

The man possessed by the feeling of charity and love of neighbor does good for good, without expecting reward, pays evil for good, defends the weak against the strong, and always sacrifices his interest to justice.

He finds satisfaction in the benefits he distributes, in the services he provides, in the ventures he promotes, in the tears that he lets dry, in the consolations that lead to the afflicted. His first impulse is to think of others, rather than of himself, of treating the interests of others rather than of his own. The selfish, on the contrary, calculates the profits and losses of each generous action.

He is good, humane and benevolent to all, without distinction of race or belief, because he sees all men as brothers.

He respects in others all sincere convictions, and does not throw an anathema to those who do not think like him.

In all circumstances, charity is your guide. He considers that he who harms others with malicious words, who injures the susceptibility of others with his pride and his disdain, which does not retreat to the idea of ​​causing suffering, a contrariety, although slight, when he can avoid it, lack of duty Of love to one's neighbor and does not merit the mercy of the Lord.

He has no hatred, no rancor, no desire for revenge. Like Jesus, he forgives and forgets offenses, and remembers only the benefits. Because he knows that he will be forgiven, as he has forgiven.

He is indulgent to the weaknesses of others, because he knows that he himself needs indulgence, and he remembers these words of Christ: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

He is not happy to look for the faults of others, nor to put them in evidence. If necessity obliges you to do so, always seek the good that can alleviate evil.

He studies his own imperfections, and works ceaselessly in combating them. All his efforts tend to allow him to say, tomorrow, that he brings something better in him than he had the day before.

He does not try to assert his spirit, nor his talents, at the expense of others. On the contrary, he takes every opportunity to emphasize the advantages of others.

He does not become content with his lot, nor with his personal predicates, because he knows that everything given him can be withdrawn.

He uses but does not abuse the goods that are granted to him, because he knows that it is a deposit, which he must account for, and that the most harmful work he can do for them is to put them to the satisfaction of Your passions.

If in social relations some men find themselves in their dependence, treat them with kindness and benevolence, because they are their equals before God. He uses his authority to raise their morals, not to crush them with their pride, and avoids all that could make their subaltern position more difficult.

The subordinate, in turn, understands the duties of his position, and has the scruples of trying to consciously fulfill them.

The good man, in the end, respects in his peers all the rights that are guaranteed to them by the laws of nature, as he would wish that theirs were respected.

This is not the full relation of the qualities that distinguish good man, but whoever strives to possess them will be on the path leading to others.
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The true good man is one who practices the law of justice, of love and charity, in its highest purity. He questions his conscience about his own acts, asks if he has not violated this law, if he has not done evil, if he has done all the good he could, if he did not willingly let go of an opportunity to be useful, if no one has anything to complain about him , In the end, he did to others what he wanted others to do for him.

Have faith in God, in his goodness, in his justice and in his wisdom; He knows that nothing happens without his permission, and submits himself in all things to his will.

He has faith in the future, and therefore puts spiritual goods above temporal goods.

He knows that all the vicissitudes of life, all pains, all disappointments, are proofs or atonement, and he accepts them without murmuring.

The man possessed by the feeling of charity and love of neighbor does good for good, without expecting reward, pays evil for good, defends the weak against the strong, and always sacrifices his interest to justice.

He finds satisfaction in the benefits he distributes, in the services he provides, in the ventures he promotes, in the tears that he lets dry, in the consolations that lead to the afflicted. His first impulse is to think of others, rather than of himself, of treating the interests of others rather than of his own. The selfish, on the contrary, calculates the profits and losses of each generous action.

He is good, humane and benevolent to all, without distinction of race or belief, because he sees all men as brothers.

He respects in others all sincere convictions, and does not throw an anathema to those who do not think like him.

In all circumstances, charity is your guide. He considers that he who harms others with malicious words, who injures the susceptibility of others with his pride and his disdain, which does not retreat to the idea of ​​causing suffering, a contrariety, although slight, when he can avoid it, lack of duty Of love to one's neighbor and does not merit the mercy of the Lord.

He has no hatred, no rancor, no desire for revenge. Like Jesus, he forgives and forgets offenses, and remembers only the benefits. Because he knows that he will be forgiven, as he has forgiven.

He is indulgent to the weaknesses of others, because he knows that he himself needs indulgence, and he remembers these words of Christ: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

He is not happy to look for the faults of others, nor to put them in evidence. If necessity obliges you to do so, always seek the good that can alleviate evil.

He studies his own imperfections, and works ceaselessly in combating them. All his efforts tend to allow him to say, tomorrow, that he brings something better in him than he had the day before.

He does not try to assert his spirit, nor his talents, at the expense of others. On the contrary, he takes every opportunity to emphasize the advantages of others.

He does not become content with his lot, nor with his personal predicates, because he knows that everything given him can be withdrawn.

He uses but does not abuse the goods that are granted to him, because he knows that it is a deposit, which he must account for, and that the most harmful work he can do for them is to put them to the satisfaction of Your passions.

If in social relations some men find themselves in their dependence, treat them with kindness and benevolence, because they are their equals before God. He uses his authority to raise their morals, not to crush them with their pride, and avoids all that could make their subaltern position more difficult.

The subordinate, in turn, understands the duties of his position, and has the scruples of trying to consciously fulfill them.

The good man, in the end, respects in his peers all the rights that are guaranteed to them by the laws of nature, as he would wish that theirs were respected.

This is not the full relation of the qualities that distinguish good man, but whoever strives to possess them will be on the path leading to others.


i'll just stick to my un-possesed pig over your bullshit

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Quote (El Shadday @ Dec 31 2016 09:46pm)
The true good man is one who practices the law of justice, of love and charity, in its highest purity. He questions his conscience about his own acts, asks if he has not violated this law, if he has not done evil, if he has done all the good he could, if he did not willingly let go of an opportunity to be useful, if no one has anything to complain about him , In the end, he did to others what he wanted others to do for him.

Have faith in God, in his goodness, in his justice and in his wisdom; He knows that nothing happens without his permission, and submits himself in all things to his will.

He has faith in the future, and therefore puts spiritual goods above temporal goods.

He knows that all the vicissitudes of life, all pains, all disappointments, are proofs or atonement, and he accepts them without murmuring.

The man possessed by the feeling of charity and love of neighbor does good for good, without expecting reward, pays evil for good, defends the weak against the strong, and always sacrifices his interest to justice.

He finds satisfaction in the benefits he distributes, in the services he provides, in the ventures he promotes, in the tears that he lets dry, in the consolations that lead to the afflicted. His first impulse is to think of others, rather than of himself, of treating the interests of others rather than of his own. The selfish, on the contrary, calculates the profits and losses of each generous action.

He is good, humane and benevolent to all, without distinction of race or belief, because he sees all men as brothers.

He respects in others all sincere convictions, and does not throw an anathema to those who do not think like him.

In all circumstances, charity is your guide. He considers that he who harms others with malicious words, who injures the susceptibility of others with his pride and his disdain, which does not retreat to the idea of ​​causing suffering, a contrariety, although slight, when he can avoid it, lack of duty Of love to one's neighbor and does not merit the mercy of the Lord.

He has no hatred, no rancor, no desire for revenge. Like Jesus, he forgives and forgets offenses, and remembers only the benefits. Because he knows that he will be forgiven, as he has forgiven.

He is indulgent to the weaknesses of others, because he knows that he himself needs indulgence, and he remembers these words of Christ: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

He is not happy to look for the faults of others, nor to put them in evidence. If necessity obliges you to do so, always seek the good that can alleviate evil.

He studies his own imperfections, and works ceaselessly in combating them. All his efforts tend to allow him to say, tomorrow, that he brings something better in him than he had the day before.

He does not try to assert his spirit, nor his talents, at the expense of others. On the contrary, he takes every opportunity to emphasize the advantages of others.

He does not become content with his lot, nor with his personal predicates, because he knows that everything given him can be withdrawn.

He uses but does not abuse the goods that are granted to him, because he knows that it is a deposit, which he must account for, and that the most harmful work he can do for them is to put them to the satisfaction of Your passions.

If in social relations some men find themselves in their dependence, treat them with kindness and benevolence, because they are their equals before God. He uses his authority to raise their morals, not to crush them with their pride, and avoids all that could make their subaltern position more difficult.

The subordinate, in turn, understands the duties of his position, and has the scruples of trying to consciously fulfill them.

The good man, in the end, respects in his peers all the rights that are guaranteed to them by the laws of nature, as he would wish that theirs were respected.

This is not the full relation of the qualities that distinguish good man, but whoever strives to possess them will be on the path leading to others.



No desire for revenge? Oh man, do I really need to quote the whole 'massacre those m'fuckers who fucked you over when you escaped Egypt' passage?

Also, I think Josef Fritzl's daughter may disagree with your idea that her ordeal was payment for a debt she was born with :P

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i'll just stick to my un-possesed pig over your bullshit


The only way out for salvation is inner moral reform. ;)

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No desire for revenge? Oh man, do I really need to quote the whole 'massacre those m'fuckers who fucked you over when you escaped Egypt' passage?

Also, I think Josef Fritzl's daughter may disagree with your idea that her ordeal was payment for a debt she was born with :P


That's why we have to improve morally. :hug:
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The only way out for salvation is inner moral reform. ;)


Salvation from what?
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Quote (IceMage @ 1 Jan 2017 19:00)
Salvation from what?


Salvation or Liberation of our moral imperfections.
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Salvation from what?



Don't press him too much he doesn't have the answers. El shadday is a kumbaya pantheist. He cherry picks the positives of Christianity while completely ignoring doctrinal truth about sin, the justice of God, consequences and so on.

His brand of religiosity is more dangerous than atheists attacks on our faith. He distorts the Biblical truths and draws false conclusions that give a false view of what Christianity is.

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Quote (El Shadday @ Jan 1 2017 05:09pm)
Salvation or Liberation of our moral imperfections.


Romans 5:9 ESV
Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

What did Paul mean by this verse? Or do spiritists not believe Paul was divinely inspired?
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