Quote (sirthom @ Dec 21 2021 01:37pm)
You are on the right track.
But covid is caused by the test and the shot.
Not by being fat.
Although, I do agree fat is severely detrimental to your health.
covid is directly attacking fat cells in the body, that makes it obvious why the US have so many deaths and places like japan dont
i spent 10 days in tokio and the only overweight people i have seen were foreigners
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 21 2021 02:12pm)
For sure you are the superior one
yes, i am
and if being pro freedom makes me a neo nazi in 2021 then the joke is on you buddy
Quote (Budgeting @ Dec 21 2021 03:22pm)
wow seems like you could use a break
indeed, its gets pretty frustrating, when you are surrounded by lefty covid karens, who cant get enough of big daddy government and act like your body, time and money belongs to them
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 21 2021 02:56pm)
I would be okay with this. Even though we both know that a vaccine mandate tied to BMI would not be practicable and not hold up in court.
Do you have any sources for this claim that the vaccinated, mask-wearing crowds are speading it like wildfire? All data I know of show case rates to be significantly higher among the unvaccinated. Generally speaking, it's ridiculous to paint this picture in which the selfish vaccinated are out and about, recklessly spreading the virus during their decadent and dispensable activities while the virtuous unvaccinated are meticulously keeping their social distance and avoid all unnecessary contacts or activities like the model citizens that they are. :rofl:
Still, you keep missing the key point: keeping cases low is not the only way to mitigate the burden on the healthcare system, vaccines also reduce the strain on ICUs because a higher share of vaccinations means that a lower share of the infected end up in hospital. The idea being that if the vaccination rate was high enough, we might still get waves (since the protection against infection itself is quite imperfect), but the impact on ICUs would be so low that hospitals are not overwhelmed, even if we let a seasonal covid wave rip without any NPIs in place (since protection against severe disease or hospitalisation is very high, particularly for those who got their booster). This was most definitely true for the previous vaccines against the Delta variant. It might even still be true against Omicron if we're lucky, although data on the protection against hospitalization or death for Omicron is still outstanding.
is there even good data on who spreads how much in the real world?
we both know that, as recently discovered, the numbers in germany were completely fake ----> all unknown cases were put in the unvaxxed category