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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 19 May 2022 17:10)
Most of the countries we are living in have Freedom I don't know want are you talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

here you go. American drama for you


Watched that movie. He says other countries have freedom too: Canada, Germany, UK, Belgium.
He is right, these countries have freedom. I kind of like all of them.

But I cannot call Germany the greatest country anymore.
They made their whole economy and country fully dependant on a gas link from an unstable Russian dictator. Smart guys dont do such things.
Now basically Putin might ask for Angela Merkel sex tape, and Germany would have to get it to him.
Also Germany still doesnt understand, that Putin doesnt have to stop his tanks in Poland when he attacks, he can go to Germany too.
They just dont have the imagination to be the leader.

Canada is a cool country, but they really are like 1/10 size of USA. Same goes for Belgium. UK is little bigger, but still much smaller.
So when I say that USA are the leader of the world, I take moral values but also military and economy size in account.
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Quote (Djunior @ May 19 2022 04:47pm)
Truman doctrine


yes i would agree with that assessment.

also:

Quote (Ironfister @ May 19 2022 04:50pm)
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Canada is a cool country, but they really are like 1/10 size of USA. Same goes for Belgium. UK is little bigger, but still much smaller.
So when I say that USA are the leader of the world, I take moral values but also military and economy size in account.


Canada is in fact, larger then the united states. i presume you mean militarily, in which case, with not having nukes (unless im wrong) canada is not even on the radar as compared to the US.

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Quote (Djunior @ 19 May 2022 23:43)
Not sure but it sounds like you're saying what America does is ok because we're the good guys. Although I agree that democracy is good we have to understand that other countries might disagree.

History proves that intervention often doesn't work even if it's a relatively small country when they're prepared to go the distance like determined / die-hard Vietnamese or religious fanatics like the Taliban.

Now we're dealing with a (former) superpower that possesses 6K nukes.


I think democracy is an excellent thing.
I am sure Ferdia, Nolander and most people agree as well.

But What kind of democracy and how. When everyone is doing their part putting in their effort to help and bring their country to another level, improving their lives that is excellent. More voices is always good for the society and the government.
Only when constructive. But Democracy will somehow meet a huge challenge if it is being interfered with. I want Democracy, who doesn't want . Everyone deserves Democracy and universal suffrage.
But alas in the real world we do not always get what we deserve.
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Quote (Ironfister @ 19 May 2022 18:50)
Angela Merkel sex tape

E. Macron has joined the chat.

Women get better over the years. Same as vine.

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I think democracy is an excellent thing.
I am sure Ferdia, Nolander and most people agree as well.

But What kind of democracy and how. When everyone is doing their part putting in their effort to help and bring their country to another level, improving their lives that is excellent. More voices is always good for the society and the government.
Only when constructive. But Democracy will somehow meet a huge challenge if it is being interfered with. I want Democracy, who doesn't want . Everyone deserves Democracy and universal suffrage.
But alas in the real world we do not always get what we deserve.


Yes democracy is an excellent thing. However, its not built in a day. From a cultural standpoint democracy is either nonexistent, weak and/or not stable in alot of places around the world. It may take centuries before the entire planet is democratic and it might be never. democracy does not come naturally to alot of people AND there are certain strengths in other forms of government which can cut through alot of red tape but which democracy lacks. The term democratic is also getting quite vague now as well. If you were to name 20 democratic country on different continents it would be quite easy to poke some holes noting not all democracies are equal.

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Quote (Norlander @ 19 May 2022 17:25)
External, well right. Armia Krajova was an external military force.


Where did you learn so many polish words?
Armia krajowa, as its name says, was a national army of the government, so it wasnt external, you got it all messed up.
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Quote (Ironfister @ 19 May 2022 19:02)
Where did you learn so many polish words?
Armia krajowa, as its name says, was a national army of the government, so it wasnt external, you got it all messed up.


I see you got the point. Same as Taliban.
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Canada is in fact, larger then the united states. i presume you mean militarily, in which case, with not having nukes (unless im wrong) canada is not even on the radar as compared to the US.


When comparing country size I mean especially population, economy size, military size. Land size is not very important, especially since some of Canada lands are cold areas, which are not very human friendly. Maybe it changes once global warming kicks in, lol
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i.e. that the taliban where there before the US, the US occupied, the US left, and the taliban where once more there.
its not that America was bringing freedom and liberty but rather that they had their security interests and then pulled out.

just stating my view. happy to be challenged.

Quote (Ironfister @ May 19 2022 05:07pm)
When comparing country size I mean especially population, economy size, military size. Land size is not very important, especially since some of Canada lands are cold areas, which are not very human friendly. Maybe it changes once global warming kicks in, lol


i idly wonder how greenland is going to fare over the next 100 years, nevermind russia.

but because im bored:

The US and Canada are roughly the same size. Canada has 38M ppl and the US has 329M.
army: The Canadian Armed Forces is comprised of approximately 68,000 Regular Force and 27,000 Reserve Force members, increasing to 71,500 and 30,000 respectively under Strong, Secure, Engaged − Canada's defence policy, as well as 5,200 Ranger Patrol Group members.
army: The U.S. Armed Forces is the world's third largest military by active personnel, after the Chinese's People's Liberation Army and the Indian Armed Forces, consisting of 1,359,685 servicemembers in the regular armed forces with an additional 799,845 servicemembers in the reserves as of 28 February 2019.
In 2020, GDP of Canada amounted to about 1.64 trillion U.S. dollars and GDP of the United States amounted to about 20.89 trillion U.S. dollars.

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Yes democracy is an excellent thing. However, its not built in a day. From a cultural standpoint democracy is either nonexistent, weak and/or not stable in alot of places around the world. It may take centuries before the entire planet is democratic and it might be never. democracy does not come naturally to alot of people AND there are certain strengths in other forms of government which can cut through alot of red tape but which democracy lacks. The term democratic is also getting quite vague now as well. If you were to name 20 democratic country on different continents it would be quite easy to poke some holes noting not all democracies are equal.


Some cultures are not ready for democracy at all.
If I am going to allow Democracy to Work in China. Within months there will be a democratic referendum to invade Taiwan.
And the mass media influence right now is absolutely atrocious. They are so good with it that we common people are completely brainwashed by them if we are not careful.
The amount of time we spend looking at our cellphones and getting involved with Social Media have wrecked our brains. A lot of people are brain dead to be honest.
We cannot seem to understand global issues and we are not well informed. And when we consider ourselves as well informed, we are always informed by our selected media that fits our political or cultural ideology.
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