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Quote (ferdia @ 19 May 2022 23:05)
Freedom and Liberty.

Can someone give me some examples, post WW2 please, where a country invaded another in order to either provide Freedom and Liberty, or which imposed (lasting) Freedom and Liberty. I am genuine curious ok.


I can't think of any, hopefully someone can educate me on this. This is an honest request.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 19 2022 04:07pm)
I can't think of any, hopefully someone can educate me on this. This is an honest request.


I think US helping kuwait falls into this catagory, it certainly is the first to sping to mind, but i dont know enough about kuwait (yet) to fully flesh this out. i will do some reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait

In my opinion without direct international intervention Kuwait would have been FUBAR and thus yes, its pre-existing freedoms and liberties were protected.

i.e. for countries with pre-existing freedoms and liberties, it should be understood that following invasion / conflict, including neutral intervention on said country's behalf (WW2, Kuwait, whatever) it is not climbing a mountain to return to said culture (free/liberty/whatever). However, for direct invasions, force of arms to change a culture, well...

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 19 May 2022 17:06)
They are doing it passively though, You ever watch youtube videos when Americans telling Hispanics, Koreans, Chinese who were speaking amongst themselves in the states and some Karen comes along and says this is America, we speak English here?


Hows that related again?
Original comment was about an occupying country forcing the native citizens to speak english instead of their native language
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Quote (Ironfister @ 19 May 2022 23:07)
Everybody deserves freedom.
Do you ask the Black people if they want to be free or keep being slaves? Lol
Of course I understand that some women might opt to dont go work but stay at home all the time, but it should be their choice, not some talibans military force.
In today Poland real catholics are in minority. People just dont officially quit because they want a traditional catholic wedding, a traditional first comunion party and a traditional catholic funeral. Some also bring their eggs to church before easter holidays - also a tradition. And that's it for their catholism.


Most of the countries we are living in have Freedom I don't know want are you talking about.



here you go. American drama for you
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Quote (Ironfister @ 19 May 2022 18:07)
Everybody deserves freedom.
Do you ask the Black people if they want to be free or keep being slaves? Lol
Of course I understand that some women might opt to dont go work but stay at home all the time, but it should be their choice, not some talibans military force.
In today Poland real catholics are in minority. People just dont officially quit because they want a traditional catholic wedding, a traditional first comunion party and a traditional catholic funeral. Some also bring their eggs to church before easter holidays - also a tradition. And that's it for their catholism.


They were free. Who did enslave them?
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Quote (Ognadibik @ 19 May 2022 23:09)
Hows that related again?
Original comment was about an occupying country forcing the native citizens to speak english instead of their native language


ohhh.... someone is going to reply you on this sooner or later.
I am just going to keep quiet.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 19 May 2022 17:12)
ohhh.... someone is going to reply you on this sooner or later.
I am just going to keep quiet.


Please do.
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Quote (Ognadibik @ 19 May 2022 23:12)
Please do.


here is one little one

https://blog.ititranslates.com/2020/02/25/a-brief-history-of-native-american-languages-in-the-us/

Quote (Ognadibik @ 19 May 2022 22:52)
What do you mran "what if" ? Americans didnt force their language on anyone
You are talking about things that never happened there


Just to quote you.


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Quote (ferdia @ May 19 2022 05:05pm)
Freedom and Liberty.

Can someone give me some examples, post WW2 please, where a country invaded another in order to either provide Freedom and Liberty, or which imposed (lasting) Freedom and Liberty. I am genuine curious ok.


Vietnam war --> communism bad (they're still communist)
Afghanistan --> Taliban bad (they're still here)
Iraq --> operation Iraqi freedom (lol)

Almost 8 decades later US troops still maintain a presence in Germany btw. The USSR left over 3 decades ago.
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Quote (ferdia @ 19 May 2022 17:05)
Freedom and Liberty.

Can someone give me some examples, post WW2 please, where a country invaded another in order to either provide Freedom and Liberty, or which imposed (lasting) Freedom and Liberty. I am genuine curious ok.


Well, it almost worked out in Afghanistan, except the liberal government was attacked by an external military taliban force and lost as the liberals didnt want to risk their lives.
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