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May 18 2022 06:43am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2022 04:41am)
It doesnt make any sense. Putin was one of the richest people in the world, watch the Navalny movie.
Yet he started war, and brought trade ban to himself and his nation. The Russian economy is now falling, luxuries imports stopped, the luxury life of Russian elites is mostly over.
Putin needs to be careful about his life, as many people want him dead.
So no, nothing looks like he did it for money.


never said that

you keep forgetting the WEF connections. do you know anything about klaus schwab and the WEF?
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May 18 2022 06:52am
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Widely accepted rules of war say you need approximately a 3:1 advantage as an attacking army trying to take a city. Let's say 95% of the people of Kiev are civilians or people that would not fight or left. That leaves a force of 150k people to fight.

30k troops is much too small of a number to try and take a city of that size, especially considering the fact that Kiev would have gotten military reinforcements from the west and south.


Widely accepted rules say that when you cut supply and energy lines from the city, and bombard it, starve it, it will have no other choice than to surrender, sooner or later.
150k people willing to resist maybe, but how you gonna arm these people at least with javelins, Panzerfausts, bulletproof vests, etc, when you didnt have them?
And give those people even a very little basic military training?
When you are against an army that has a shitload of advanced weaponry, armored vehicles, that laugh ak47 in the face?
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May 18 2022 07:06am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2022 08:52am)
Widely accepted rules say that when you cut supply and energy lines from the city, and bombard it, starve it, it will have no other choice than to surrender, sooner or later.
150k people willing to resist maybe, but how you gonna arm these people at least with javelins, Panzerfausts, bulletproof vests, etc, when you didnt have them?
And give those people even a very little basic military training?
When you are against an army that has a shitload of advanced weaponry, armored vehicles, that laugh ak47 in the face?


Bro you're not blockading and advancing in a city of that size with 30k troops. You need running supply lines from either Belarus or Russia, which is hundreds of miles away and exposed. Again it's not realistic, that's why the Russians pulled back after basically sitting parked outside the city for awhile.
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May 18 2022 07:18am
Quote (TiStuff @ 18 May 2022 14:43)
never said that

you keep forgetting the WEF connections. do you know anything about klaus schwab and the WEF?


What's so special about that guy?
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May 18 2022 07:29am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2022 06:18am)
What's so special about that guy?


he is the visible head of the snake. the visible head of the WEF
the WEF is about globalism. its not about money its about everything "the great reset"

world economic forum
covid19 and the great reset book
"reset"
"build back better"

who belongs to the WEF?
putin does or did
looks like Zelenskyy does (i have to do more research on this)

who belongs to the WEF?
here is a list of some of them
Build Back Better
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ByoitFsTgnVI/

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 18 2022 07:30am
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May 18 2022 07:38am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 May 2022 13:33)
Lol battle for Kiev. There was no battle for Kiev, that was a scare tactic to get them to throw out their gov't. Once it didn't work they pulled back their troops. You think 30k troops was enough to take a city of 3 million?


The idea was to encircle Kyiv, which would presumably have worked if not for nifty Ukrainian counterattacks against the overextended Russian supply lines. Or if the cities on the way to Kyiv, Tchernihiv and Sumy, had fallen more quickly like the Russians had planned.
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May 18 2022 07:58am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 18 2022 09:38am)
The idea was to encircle Kyiv, which would presumably have worked if not for nifty Ukrainian counterattacks against the overextended Russian supply lines. Or if the cities on the way to Kyiv, Tchernihiv and Sumy, had fallen more quickly like the Russians had planned.


Even if they would of encircled Kiev as I already talked about you need much higher troop levels for a long siege type assault on a city that size. Cities are extremely costly to take and they never committed enough troops to take that city. That's why early on there was talks in the west that Russia can't maintain this for more than a week or two (that initial occupation around in the north). Looking back, i agree with that assessment because either Russia would of had to mobilize way more troops & strengthen supply lines or they would have to pull back.

To me what happened in the north was basically a bluff scare tactic. Once the scare tactic failed and Ukraine military instead of laying down arms and deposing the current gov't instead started fighting they got back in their trucks and tanks and retreated. But to call that a battle is a stretch, because there wasn't much commitment and the commitment is made evident by troop levels. If you want to see what battles look like, look at cities like Mariupol, Popasna, Izium, Severodonetsk, etc. In Kiev you have Angelina Jolie, Pelosi doing photo ops, meanwhile in those other places the whole city is annihilated.
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May 18 2022 08:12am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2022 02:18pm)
What's so special about that guy?


Russia (specifically) did not invade Ukraine over money. Ultimately the US, and the western powers, were eager to welcome Ukraine with open arms. There are a variety of reasons for this and yes money would have been one of them. my own view is they were changing a piece on the chess board from black to white, or if you want, protecting democracy. I dont mind what other views people have but more money was a by-product rather then the end goal (of the west). To say that Russia invaded Ukraine over money is quite far fetched. in my opinion.

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May 18 2022 08:48am
Quote (TiStuff @ 18 May 2022 15:29)
he is the visible head of the snake. the visible head of the WEF
the WEF is about globalism. its not about money its about everything "the great reset"

world economic forum
covid19 and the great reset book
"reset"
"build back better"

who belongs to the WEF?
putin does or did
looks like Zelenskyy does (i have to do more research on this)

who belongs to the WEF?
here is a list of some of them
Build Back Better
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ByoitFsTgnVI/


So you mean the usual conspiracy theory about jews trying to depopulize the world via vaccine, 5g and chemitrails.
Such theories come from Russia, and are usually first written in cirillics, then translated to latin alphabet and various languages.
Russian spread them, because they want western people to live in chaos, to let Russians do whatever they want, whenever they want, and attack and enslave countries one by one.
Dont listen to them, Russians are lying you.
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May 18 2022 08:50am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2022 07:48am)
So you mean the usual conspiracy theory about jews trying to depopulize the world via vaccine, 5g and chemitrails.
Such theories come from Russia, and are usually first written in cirillics, then translated to latin alphabet and various languages.
Russian spread them, because they want western people to live in chaos, to let Russians do whatever they want, whenever they want, and attack and enslave countries one by one.
Dont listen to them, Russians are lying you.


interesting?>........ but that doesnt have anything to do with what i am talking about
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