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May 17 2022 04:00pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 17 2022 12:30pm)
First of all, you cant really officially buy EUR/USD with Roubles.
So there is no free market, only Russian declaration.
Imagine you are foreigner coming with 1000usd to Russia.
For Russia gov its better to give you less roubles for your USD.
Secondly many companies stopped selling their goods to Russia, but countries continue buying resources, at least partially, until they fully switch somewhere else.
It kind of gives Russian inflow of currency, while they have not many options to spend it.


thanks for the reply.

things of interest? putin was/is part of the world economic forum
the biggest money makers in the world are war, oil, drugs. in that order?
"the conflict" russia/ukraine doesnt look legit. It looks like a scam
biden is connected to ukraine.
trump investigates biden/ukraine
biden put in as presidential candidate.
then trump impeached for investigating ukraine/biden (not permitted/illegal? to investigate opposing candidate)

btw Volodymyr Zelenskyy is just an actor?
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dancing in GAY VIDEO in High Heels - Song - 'In the Middle'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mrLIpSSNYtGY/

is he also just another global homo WEF shill? i wonder what research would turn up?

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May 17 2022 04:07pm
Quote (Norlander @ May 17 2022 01:01pm)
Russians lost on the day they invaded Ukraine. The stupidity of this act will echo in the upcoming generations. And all responsible of this will be cursed. As for me, I won't get a chance to visit my family even though they understand why this happened.


Can your family not leave Russia to visit you?
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May 17 2022 04:39pm
Must watch the video for those who didnt.
Bitch "animating" debate was really sad.

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May 17 2022 04:51pm
lol all of a sudden Russians are not "lying propagandists" anymore the moment when they start to mirror your narrative
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May 17 2022 07:08pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 17 2022 02:55pm)
Russia had to change strategy multiple times, they are using anti-ship missiles to attack land targets which strongly hints at them running out of guided missiles, they have been unsuccessfully trying to build up momentum on the Donbass front for a whole month now, modern weapons keep streaming into Ukraine every day while Russia will have a much harder time replacing any lost material, Sweden and Finland will join NATO, which is stronger and more united than before, the shift of the European economies away from Russian oil and gas has been massively accelerated by the war, Russia's reputation in both the diplomatic and the military sphere are in shambles, their central bank has to burn through its foreign currency stockpile, their economy will take a huge hit from all the sanctions once they can't paper over it anymore.

What does Russia have on the plus side? They made some smallish gains in the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, they now control the ruin formerly known as Mariupol and they captured a land connection from the Donbass to Crimea - although it remains to be seen whether they can hold the region around Kherson.


The Donbas has 50-60k Ukrainian troops and has been fortified and entrenched for 5 years, for the Russians to try and blitzkrieg their way through that would be idiotic and be very costly, so a change in strategy was absolutely the right thing. Their initial strategy was actually the wrong move, they underestimated Ukrainian fighting resolve which resulted in a lot of dead Russians initially. That's not the case now as instead of pushing very fast to take territory, they are just methodically leading with never ending artillery strikes in the east. Also, dozens of countries pooling all of their military hardware and sending it to Ukraine also makes it much harder for them to simply roll through.

Their central bank is actually not really burning through foreign currency as bad as people would think. They have a trade surplus, one that continues to grow (expected to be at record levels this year) as many European companies stopped selling goods to Russia, while Europe still spends billions on Russian gas and oil, which means the ruble has increasing demand and that's why the Euros are forced to pay a higher FX rate now (which means more foreign reserves for less rubles going to Russia's central bank).

One obvious plus is gaining territory the size of Greece, if they keep most of it, that's absolutely massive considering the south east is resource rich. Time will tell, I'm following this war on a daily basis and it's hard for me to come to the conclusion the side that is firing hundreds of strikes on a daily basis and is on the offensive is losing.
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May 17 2022 07:23pm
Pretty soon Russian oil will be off both markets. Uh oh.
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May 17 2022 07:23pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 17 2022 06:08pm)
The Donbas has 50-60k Ukrainian troops and has been fortified and entrenched for 5 years, for the Russians to try and blitzkrieg their way through that would be idiotic and be very costly, so a change in strategy was absolutely the right thing. Their initial strategy was actually the wrong move, they underestimated Ukrainian fighting resolve which resulted in a lot of dead Russians initially. That's not the case now as instead of pushing very fast to take territory, they are just methodically leading with never ending artillery strikes in the east. Also, dozens of countries pooling all of their military hardware and sending it to Ukraine also makes it much harder for them to simply roll through.

Their central bank is actually not really burning through foreign currency as bad as people would think. They have a trade surplus, one that continues to grow (expected to be at record levels this year) as many European companies stopped selling goods to Russia, while Europe still spends billions on Russian gas and oil, which means the ruble has increasing demand and that's why the Euros are forced to pay a higher FX rate now (which means more foreign reserves for less rubles going to Russia's central bank).

One obvious plus is gaining territory the size of Greece, if they keep most of it, that's absolutely massive considering the south east is resource rich. Time will tell, I'm following this war on a daily basis and it's hard for me to come to the conclusion the side that is firing hundreds of strikes on a daily basis and is on the offensive is losing.


The same way America lost the Vietnam war. While the battles during Vietnam aren't well-defined like WW2 battles, America inflicted an INSANE amount of casualties on the North Vietnamese/Vietcong. Many historians argue that America never lost a single battle during the entire war. Yet, almost everyone agrees that America lost the war. You're right that time will tell but things are looking very grim for Russia.

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May 17 2022 07:41pm
There's still people here who think Russia will "win" this war ? Seriously :lol: ?
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May 17 2022 09:37pm
Quote (Santara @ 18 May 2022 01:07)
Can your family not leave Russia to visit you?


They are in Ukraine while I'm in Russia

@Ironfister you can buy dollars and euros since April, 18th

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May 17 2022 09:59pm
Has Anyone Not Been To Ukraine For Their Press Opportunity? by Katie Hopkins
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JJLts4ZmuUKt/
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