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May 17 2022 11:08am
Quote (Norlander @ 18 May 2022 01:05)
Indeed. I feel ashamed of this.


Look with all the corruption in Russia, I am not surprised....
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May 17 2022 11:37am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 17 2022 07:03pm)
The sad thing is , Russia's military competence is being exposed.
Nato is more embolden than ever.
Countries in Europe will join Nato Left Right and center.


which was the plan all along

really a nice victory for geopolitical scumbags in washington, they baited russia into a massive proxy war + crushing economical sanctions for them and additional NATO allies on top, where the military industrial complex can cash in

price for that are just some dead random ukranians ^_^
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May 17 2022 11:41am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 18 May 2022 01:37)
which was the plan all along

really a nice victory for geopolitical scumbags in washington, they baited russia into a massive proxy war + crushing economical sanctions for them and additional NATO allies on top, where the military industrial complex can cash in

price for that are just some dead random ukranians ^_^


A lot of unfortunate Ukrainians. I have quite a number of Ukrainian friends in my City. They are pretty nice people. I haven't met the men though.
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May 17 2022 11:43am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 17 2022 07:41pm)
A lot of unfortunate Ukrainians. I have quite a number of Ukrainian friends in my City. They are pretty nice people. I haven't met the men though.



thats not the ukrainians that live in their country boi

you have no idea o/
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May 17 2022 11:45am
Quote (Bananii @ 18 May 2022 01:43)
thats not the ukrainians that live in their country boi

you have no idea o/


A lot of them come to Hong Kong from Ukraine to work as PR and Marketing.
They are pretty nice people.
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May 17 2022 11:47am
I’m still kind of confused on the logic behind saying Russia is losing/lost.

What’s the metric for success vs failure being used? I think it entirely depends on how you frame the conversion.
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May 17 2022 11:56am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 17 2022 12:47pm)
I’m still kind of confused on the logic behind saying Russia is losing/lost.

What’s the metric for success vs failure being used? I think it entirely depends on how you frame the conversion.


It's pretty easy to see how Russia could be losing. They have struggled to achieve any of their objectives, despite being a massively larger and ostensibly more powerful country. Their economy is also currently undergoing massive backwards movement, meaning that even if they win there's not a chance in hell they will come out better than before.

The only way I think you can say Russia is winning is if you isolate the analysis to just the war front and ignore losses and relative strength.
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May 17 2022 12:01pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 17 May 2022 20:47)
I’m still kind of confused on the logic behind saying Russia is losing/lost.

What’s the metric for success vs failure being used? I think it entirely depends on how you frame the conversion.


Russians lost on the day they invaded Ukraine. The stupidity of this act will echo in the upcoming generations. And all responsible of this will be cursed. As for me, I won't get a chance to visit my family even though they understand why this happened.

This post was edited by Norlander on May 17 2022 12:07pm
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May 17 2022 12:16pm
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I’m still kind of confused on the logic behind saying Russia is losing/lost.

What’s the metric for success vs failure being used? I think it entirely depends on how you frame the conversion.


There is a difference between losing the battle and losing the war.
Russia lost the battle as of now.
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May 17 2022 12:29pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 17 2022 10:47am)
I’m still kind of confused on the logic behind saying Russia is losing/lost.

What’s the metric for success vs failure being used? I think it entirely depends on how you frame the conversion.


How many Ukranian generals are dead?
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