Quote (Ironfister @ May 17 2022 04:56am)

The pizza tweet is not there. Deleted or never existed. Too lazy to look for 1488, but I had to Google to find what does it even mean, I could buy such a shirt myself, lol.
Anyway we had a great war 80 years ago in Europe, many nations played in Hitler team, including Russia (at the beginning of the war).
Its very possible there are some freaks left.
In Ukraine Azov party get 2% support last election. Totally marginal.
Its just an excuse.
When a woman is raped, you shouldnt say "that's her fault, she wasnt nice enough to people". Its even inappropriate and a bad manner to do so. Same should go for countries.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ 17 May 2022 10:49)

Media attempting to spin the surrender of Mariupol as a victory, or at least not a defeat, and there is a 99.9% chance that the leftoid hive dweebs here are like "yep, checks out."

Not that Russia is winning in the broad campaign, but this battle was a Russian victory. The Ukrainian defenses surrendered. They lost. There's no shame in admitting the very plain truth here, and there's no implicit bias when stating that simple truth.

Quote (ferdia @ 17 May 2022 11:22)

curiosity got the better of me, just providing this (pewresearchorg) for context.

https://i.imgur.com/QC4XSOT.png

and also (aljazeera):

What has been the international response to Azov?

In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections. The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon. In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.

Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.

Quote (Goomshill @ 17 May 2022 17:28)

shouldn't the feathers on the wings be folded inwards when reversed? what kind of nazi eagle has four feathered wings in parallel, what is it, a biblically accurate angel?

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 17 2022 03:51pm)

This is missleading: in all countries you will always have like 10% of people who just dont want strangers or communautarists, could be jews, muslims, blacks, arabs, indians, asians, or just "immigrants"
this is a dangerously focused study, they better work back on their countries' views studies but they weirdly stopped some years ago. Maybe the results were not appreacied by some allies (it's US study)
Azov got largely diminished since 2014, you have the informations on wikipedia.

Quote (ferdia @ 17 May 2022 18:20)

I think you meant the article i posted was misleading ? indeed that 5% seems odd in the round, perhaps another study would throw out another number. in the round if X person on my left was an ahole and Y person on my right was from A country, it would be X person that I would not want to live beside, even if he was from the same country as me. but racism is alive and well in the world, all over the world.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 17 2022 07:49am)

The battle of Mariupol was an operational victory for the Russians, but it was a tactical and strategic victory for Ukraine. Russia had to spend far more troops, material and time than they should have, which helped alleviate pressure on other fronts for several months. Furthermore, the Russians had to basically flatten the entire city, so they now rule over the rubble instead of preserving its infrastructure.

Of course it's ridiculous how the surrender of the Azov guys is spun as a victory, but they did indeed give the Russians one hell of a fight and bought tons of valuable time for their country.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ 17 May 2022 19:41)

I don't disagree that it was a pyrrhic victory. Just noting the painful mental gymnastics of the western media, obviously trying to soften the blow that yes, Mariupol is securely in Russian control now. It could be the most pyrrhic victory in the history of victories, but it's still the end of a battle that resulted in territory changing hands to the victor. The media insults everyone's intelligence (or, accurately predicts it) by trying to pussyfoot around and use soft words.

Quote (Norlander @ 18 May 2022 00:59)

Three months of siege. If I was Putin I'd give a pistol loaded with one bullet to anyone responsible of this.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 17 May 2022 20:03)

The sad thing is , Russia's military competence is being exposed.
Nato is more embolden than ever.
Countries in Europe will join Nato Left Right and center.