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May 17 2022 02:49am
Media attempting to spin the surrender of Mariupol as a victory, or at least not a defeat, and there is a 99.9% chance that the leftoid hive dweebs here are like "yep, checks out."

Not that Russia is winning in the broad campaign, but this battle was a Russian victory. The Ukrainian defenses surrendered. They lost. There's no shame in admitting the very plain truth here, and there's no implicit bias when stating that simple truth.

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on May 17 2022 02:50am
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Media attempting to spin the surrender of Mariupol as a victory, or at least not a defeat, and there is a 99.9% chance that the leftoid hive dweebs here are like "yep, checks out."

Not that Russia is winning in the broad campaign, but this battle was a Russian victory. The Ukrainian defenses surrendered. They lost. There's no shame in admitting the very plain truth here, and there's no implicit bias when stating that simple truth.


Pyrrhyc victory
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May 17 2022 03:27am
Azov regiment spokesman Dmitry Kozatsky to celebrate Ukrainian win on Eurovision Song Contest in a very "specyfic" way.



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This post was edited by Norlander on May 17 2022 03:28am
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Pyrrhyc victory


Quote (Norlander @ May 17 2022 10:27am)
Azov regiment spokesman Dmitry Kozatsky to celebrate Ukrainian win on Eurovision Song Contest in a very "specyfic" way.

https://i.imgur.com/yguXgqd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/lEYNYkh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/c0Bji2V.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/dajeZDa.jpg



i must congratulate you for being in the exclusive "i will double post so help me god" club :)

i tried to google his name but my pc does not like this name and almost blew up. can you give me some context to what we are seeing in your images (above). if I could be so bold: clear evidence that ukrainians view swastika's as an accepted symbol and by extension their "movement" is out in the open with a degree of acceptance. Therefore the concept of naziism in ukraine, is alive and well. bear in mind, they form a minority but said minority is still quite big (i do not tarnish any country with one single brush).

happy to be corrected on any of the above.

what does 22 ozu 20 mean ? when was that dish made ? i note it does not have alot of views. if recent, ok, if not recent then it undermines my above (noting if ppl liked it there would have been more hearts then 27).

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i must congratulate you for being in the exclusive "i will double post so help me god" club :)

i tried to google his name but my pc does not like this name and almost blew up. can you give me some context to what we are seeing in your images (above). if I could be so bold: clear evidence that ukrainians view swastika's as an accepted symbol and by extension their "movement" is out in the open with a degree of acceptance. Therefore the concept of naziism in ukraine, is alive and well. bear in mind, they form a minority but said minority is still quite big (i do not tarnish any country with one single brush).

happy to be corrected on any of the above.

what does 22 ozu 20 mean ? when was that dish made ? i note it does not have alot of views. if recent, ok, if not recent then it undermines my above (noting if ppl liked it there would have been more hearts then 27).


March, 22 (it's Polish short of "ožujka", March) . @Kozatsky_D (twitter.com). The funniest thing is to post swastika pie, wear 1488 shirt and then congratulate Ukrainian band winning Eurovision Song Contest which is known as LGBT-friendly.
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May 17 2022 05:22am
curiosity got the better of me, just providing this (pewresearchorg) for context.



and also (aljazeera):

What has been the international response to Azov?

In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections. The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon. In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.

Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 17 2022 05:26am
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curiosity got the better of me, just providing this (pewresearchorg) for context.

https://i.imgur.com/QC4XSOT.png


any reason why ?
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 17 2022 12:26pm)
any reason why ?


Yea, there has to be a reason why certain symbols are not a "death sentence" from their society. While I read of abuses by this element it is contrasted by what is happening in Ukraine (i.e. they really dont like the russian army) and by the above international support (read: the US). In the round its a case of the enemy of my enemy, is my friend, even if that friend is, errrm, questionable / has questionable elements.

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Quote (Nibthebarb @ May 17 2022 04:49am)
Media attempting to spin the surrender of Mariupol as a victory, or at least not a defeat, and there is a 99.9% chance that the leftoid hive dweebs here are like "yep, checks out."

Not that Russia is winning in the broad campaign, but this battle was a Russian victory. The Ukrainian defenses surrendered. They lost. There's no shame in admitting the very plain truth here, and there's no implicit bias when stating that simple truth.


Quote (Norlander @ May 17 2022 05:16am)
Pyrrhyc victory


Quote (Norlander @ May 17 2022 05:27am)
Azov regiment spokesman Dmitry Kozatsky to celebrate Ukrainian win on Eurovision Song Contest in a very "specyfic" way.

https://i.imgur.com/yguXgqd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/lEYNYkh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/c0Bji2V.jpg

Bonus:
https://i.imgur.com/dajeZDa.jpg


This guy seems like a dick.

Quote (ferdia @ May 17 2022 07:22am)
curiosity got the better of me, just providing this (pewresearchorg) for context.

https://i.imgur.com/QC4XSOT.png

and also (aljazeera):

What has been the international response to Azov?

In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections. The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon. In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.

Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.


Eastern Europe is a pretty....monoculture. It is way different than the West. I lived in Germany for a couple years while in the military and I went West to cities a lot, East a few times and it was different than the West. The men everywhere hated us being there but only the turks did anything about it. I think they thought we were stealing their women. Trust me those women see the constellation of problems that is an american GI and know to stay clear lol.

US Army has been denazifying but everyone is making fun of it for being "woke" because it is trying to be inclusive. They don't like either army it seems.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 17 2022 05:35am
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Eastern Europe is a pretty....monoculture. It is way different than the West. I lived in Germany for a couple years while in the military and I went West to cities a lot, East a few times and it was different than the West. The men everywhere hated us being there but only the turks did anything about it. I think they thought we were stealing their women. Trust me those women see the constellation of problems that is an american GI and know to stay clear lol.


The GI culture is only significant in Thailand, Philippines in my part of the Globe.
It used to be a slight problem in Singapore and Hong Kong. But both cities are quite affluent now so it is no longer a problem.
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