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May 16 2022 01:04pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 16 2022 02:43pm)
The Warsaw was totally destroyed during the WW2. By nazi Germans and help from Stalin's Russia.
City was like a Mariupol today. Or worse, not sure. In fact Hitler ordered a total demolition of the whole city, as a punishment for uprisings.
Communist government decided they dont move the capital away, dont abandon the ruined city, but nationalize the ruins and rebuild it.
The whole Polish country worked hard to rebuild our capital.
Now, after like 60 years, we are back in EU and western world, and some jewish people came and wanted us to return land with buildings that werent there after the war, or were ruined.
Do you consider that fair? I dont.
Ask the Germans for money, they did the damage, why you dont ask them, yet all the time you jewish guys want money from the poor polish people, that were under occupation for 80% of the last 300years.
300years of robbery, of killing our intelligence and elites.
Also of course we dont even have valid documents about the jewish ownership of this land anymore, as nazists and later communists destroyed them.
So we cant really be sure that a person who comes is a real owner.
The guy can have documents from lets say year 1920, but how do we know that he didnt sell it later or if his documents werent faked?
Its all a big "sorry, no money for you".
Jewish people can be mad at us, but really its not even feasible for a country to give away our capital city.


"We can't be sure what you are saying is true (even though we probably can just choose to say that because we don't want to give it back), so we'll keep all your shit"

It's okay mate. For what it's worth I agree that the Polish are not rich so for them to forfeit stuff is not realistic. Beside the Poles are not unique in shitting on the Jews, that was the norm for a good part of history in Europe.

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May 16 2022 01:08pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 17 May 2022 03:04)
"We can't be sure what you are saying is true (even though we probably can just choose to say that because we don't want to give it back), so we'll keep all your shit"

It's okay mate. For what it's worth I agree that the Polish are not rich so for them to forfeit stuff is not realistic. Beside the Poles are not unique in shitting on the Jews, that was the norm for a good part of history in Europe.


They did produce one of my favorite composer though. Someone whose pieces i play regularly.
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May 16 2022 01:28pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 May 2022 22:08)
They did produce one of my favorite composer though. Someone whose pieces i play regularly.


Tchaikovsky/Mussorgsky? :rofl:
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May 16 2022 01:29pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 16 2022 07:56pm)
Chopsticks2.0
Hows things going mate.
I have some new Geo Political stuff that you might find interesting


how am i chopsticks 2.0 ?! i was merely trying to ask people to be more specific when relating to events and countries.
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May 16 2022 01:30pm
Quote (ferdia @ 17 May 2022 03:29)
how am i chopsticks 2.0 ?! i was merely trying to ask people to be more specific when relating to events and countries.


Ironfist is Chopstick 2.0 :lol: but the other end of the political spectrum.
I was referring to Ironfist. :rofl:

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 16 2022 01:31pm
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May 16 2022 01:31pm
Quote (Norlander @ 17 May 2022 03:28)
Tchaikovsky/Mussorgsky? :rofl:


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May 16 2022 01:36pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 May 2022 22:31)
Chopin


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Quote (Norlander @ 17 May 2022 03:36)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUfcoDrvzYQ


i can play this particular piece.
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May 16 2022 01:39pm
Quote (Norlander @ 16 May 2022 21:03)
Not Russian, Soviet. Soviet regime treated us all the same. Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Jews. If there were some Irish then I have no doubts they would go to GULAG as "enemies of the people". Socialism means equality.
A week ago Mr Ironfister noted that it was hard to get a pair of boots of proper size in Warsaw and poles have suffered a lot finding a guy to change it. Well, we have to do one step more taking a train to Warsaw, not to mention getting an approval.


I know that deep inside people arent evil.
People from all around the globe did terrible things.
Germans fallen to nazi ideology, white people from the west enslaved Black ones, British conquered world by selling drugs etc.
Russians arent exception, but you guys were so long under evil propaganda, that it will take you long time to recover.
Mr Gorbatschow was a good guy, Mr Jelcyn also (especially in the beginning).
If their effort were continued, Im sure Russia would start to catch up already.
And you would be a different person too.
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May 16 2022 01:48pm
Quote (Ironfister @ 16 May 2022 22:39)
I know that deep inside people arent evil.
People from all around the globe did terrible things.
Germans fallen to nazi ideology, white people from the west enslaved Black ones, British conquered world by selling drugs etc.
Russians arent exception, but you guys were so long under evil propaganda, that it will take you long time to recover.
Mr Gorbatschow was a good guy, Mr Jelcyn also (especially in the beginning).
If their effort were continued, Im sure Russia would start to catch up already.
And you would be a different person too.

What nation is the basis of reference then if nobody is perfect?
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