you are extremely authoritarian

I asked YOU the question. Don't cop out and hide behind God. I asked YOU what YOU think. Have some thought of your own.



The bible doesn't teach me choices about being happy at all. My own morals and perception of life do that. And of course in that scenario they don't have to be odds. However you and I both know that plenty of people do NOT just recommend the bible from a personal standpoint of happiness.

Okay here is what I think. I think that in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

I think that everyone who hears the words of Jesus and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears the words of Jesus and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.

I think I should therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that Jesus has commanded us. And surely he is with us always, to the very end of the age.

I asked what you think, not what you can possibly regurgitate from the Bible. THINK. Not recite.

Because I am 100% certain you do not follow every word of the bible every day, so I'm curious which parts are the most important to you

This post was edited by Impose on Dec 13 2016 03:46am

The Bible agrees with you because there is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.

You can be 100% certain that nobody follows every word of The Bible every day. What that must mean is that there is no way that anybody can earn salvation through good works.

You tell me what hope do we have since that is the case?

Anecdotal evidence isnt an argument.

There is hope because god probably doesn't exist, and if he does, he doesn't give a fuck about you surrendering your intellectual capabilities and spending your free time trying to indoctrinate the young, naive and ignorant. In fact, I'd say any reasonable being would find it either insulting or just humourous.

Inb4 but the bible says...

This post was edited by GetOnYourKnees on Dec 13 2016 08:59am

Hey it's you! Since you decided to reply to me we can go back to our original argument which you have yet to reply to. This is exactly where we left off. The debate about the great flood.

Here, read these two links. Just so you know neither of these are 'blogs' like you posted.
http://www.icr.org/article/coconino-sandstone-flood-or-desert/
http://www.icr.org/nature

As for your second part:

Here is a small calculation that I did, let's see how far apart these cities are from each other.



As you will see, all of these cities are far apart from eachother, excluding Sucre and La Paz which you can basically count as one area.

If all of these areas are the only ones that are in high ground, they have no way to contact each other. Each of these areas are isolated. No way they are going to drive or travel by plane since they didn't have then back then.

Let's also mention the fact that these cities would have been under severe rainfall as well (Even though back then they didn't have all the fancy technology we have now).

So the respective cities are cut off from their supply lines. All the farms have been destroyed by the severe weather. You say they managed to find higher ground within these cities.

Now the major problem becomes food. They only have a limited supply of food and the water still won't subside until after a few months. I know for a fact that the shelves from the supermarkets need to be re-stacked daily, let alone a few months. All the food supplies will run out, everything will be chaotic. Everyone runs to higher ground so the supply demand will be humongous, with no supplies coming in.

Now add to the fact that the wild beasts and animals will go hungry and hunt to kill and eat. How do you stop the elephants, the lions and the wild bears?

You make the implication that everyone cares about respecting the Bible and all it says, in addition to them wanting to earn salvation. Implying that the Bible is the creator of morality, or a basis of life to go on, is just taking from what has already existed and trying to claim it as your own.

What hope do we have? I hope that your religion no longer has a place on the planet at some point in the future, outside of numanist occasions. The hope is that prior to organized religion, the human race was fine, the hope is that after it dies down, we'll still be just fine.

I'm not the greatest person but if I subscribed to your beliefs I would have been condemned to hell long ago, which I don't believe I deserve to be

Earning salvation is what the other religions are all about. The thing is about those religions is that they are all man-made. You can tell they are man-made because they are based on how humans think. Work hard and earn reward. Yet with Christianity it is the complete opposite. That is what makes it unique and the basis of our salvation is that the hard work has already been done.

The Bible itself is not the creator of morality, rather the author of salvation is the creator of morality. God almighty is who created the Universe in 7 days through his word.

So that is your hope, how would you go about achieving that outcome? I would love to hear your thoughts and tactics. I mean doesn't the human mind teach you that if you sit and do nothing then nothing will be achieved? So you think you know what life will be like without religion, what basis do you put that belief on? I mean people will always murder, lie, cheat and steal whether they are religious or not. There will still be wars and hate. How do you think removing religion alone will solve the problem?

You really don't know that much about Christianity do you? You say that you are not the greatest person yet you do not believe you deserve to be condemned to hell. Tell me why you think that is the case. At what point does somebody deserve to go to hell, according to what you believe?