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Mar 4 2022 03:26am
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And yet all 3 are defying calls to sanction Russia. None of them have the weight to create a separate financial system by themselves, or even in combination. But add Russia China and India and you suddenly have more than sufficient economic strength to create a second economic system.


China is way more dependent from western economics than from russian. They will not suddenly cut ties with westerners to strengthen the russian economy. To think that China will go down with the russian sinking ship is pretty naive.
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Mar 4 2022 03:33am
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China is way more dependent from western economics than from russian. They will not suddenly cut ties with westerners to strengthen the russian economy. To think that China will go down with the russian sinking ship is pretty naive.


And yet China isn't sanctioning Russia and publically has supported them so you must be the naive one.
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Mar 4 2022 03:47am
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And yet China isn't sanctioning Russia and publically has supported them so you must be the naive one.


That China isn't sanctioning Russia does not mean that they will strengthen Russia. They will have about the same business as usual. This will, however, not prevent Russia from falling down completely economics wise.
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That China isn't sanctioning Russia does not mean that they will strengthen Russia. They will have about the same business as usual. This will, however, not prevent Russia from falling down completely economics wise.


Ah so now you have to make up arguments. I never said China was going to make Russia stronger. Try again.
Your delusion that Russia is about to collapse is the height of naivety.
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Mar 4 2022 04:27am
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Ah so now you have to make up arguments. I never said China was going to make Russia stronger. Try again.
Your delusion that Russia is about to collapse is the height of naivety.


What the fuck are you even talking about? Where did I make up arguments?
You made countless implications that China (and India, Cuba, Venezuela and some other 3rd world countries) will 'save' Russia economically in this and various other threads. Don't try to talk yourself out of this.
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Mar 4 2022 04:29am
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What the fuck are you even talking about? Where did I make up arguments?
You made countless implications that China (and India, Cuba, Venezuela and some other 3rd world countries) will 'save' Russia economically in this and various other threads. Don't try to talk yourself out of this.


When you said I said China would make Russia stronger, as I already specified. Try to keep up.

They certainly will prevent a collapse of the Russian economy, which is not the same thing as making Russia stronger.
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Mar 4 2022 04:38am
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When you said I said China would make Russia stronger, as I already specified. Try to keep up.

My bad, wrong interpretation from my side.

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They certainly will prevent a collapse of the Russian economy

No, they won't. Not possible. Not even in the slightest.

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Mar 4 2022 04:45am
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No, they won't. Not possible. Not even in the slightest.


It is not only possible but probable. The USSR survived and competed with the strongest super power yet to exist for decades. Only the US was capable of competing with them economically or militarily. Russia is less isolated today than the USSR ever was. Russia's foreign trade partners are far stronger economically than the USSR's ever were. That Russia will collapse over sanctions that hurt the West as much as Russia is frankly ridiculous.
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Mar 4 2022 04:52am
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It is not only possible but probable. The USSR survived and competed with the strongest super power yet to exist for decades. Only the US was capable of competing with them economically or militarily. Russia is less isolated today than the USSR ever was. Russia's foreign trade partners are far stronger economically than the USSR's ever were. That Russia will collapse over sanctions that hurt the West as much as Russia is frankly ridiculous.


7 of the Top10 import and export partners are currently sanctioning Russia (as well as another one of their top10 import and export partner).
They deal 52,9% of their international trade with the EU (who is currently sanctioning them)
Go figure

But if you think that this has no severe consequence on russian economy, then any further argument is pointless.
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Mar 4 2022 05:13am
Quote (Vastet @ Mar 4 2022 08:58am)
And yet all 3 are defying calls to sanction Russia. None of them have the weight to create a separate financial system by themselves, or even in combination. But add Russia China and India and you suddenly have more than sufficient economic strength to create a second economic system.


dont forget belarus, saudi arabia and Pakistan

This post was edited by darkhead69 on Mar 4 2022 05:13am
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