The lethal amount of fentanyl and severe coronary heart disease were clearly major factors in his death.

He was placed on the ground because he asked to be placed on the ground and he had just been lawfully arrested for passing counterfeit bills, of which he was clearly guilty.

I think manslaughter has a chance at being proven, but we shouldn't assume because the defense has a strong case and we don't send people to prison because we're upset that someone else somewhere might be racially profiled.

Correct. He was manic and in distress and said he couldn't breathe several times when he was in the car. He also asked to be put on the ground. Those are the reasons why they took him out of the car and put him on the ground.
The drugs and stress clearly played a major role here which makes the case much messier and different than originally thought.

If anyone hasn't seen it yet, Crowder played the full footage from one of the bodycams at the beginning of his show yesterday.

he worked security at a strip club where he likely received cash paymnents, he may not have known it was a counterfeit bill, also, we are talking about $20............it should not have cost him his life.

Can you confidently say that this man would have died without police intervention that day because of the Fentanyl and his heart issues?

I don't think you can.

hey man he asked to be put on the ground, and he must have asked for a knee on his neck for 9 mins too......

the officer fucked up, put him away for 20 years, out in 10 with good behavior, and send a message.

Police intervention was warranted. We need to know beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin took unlawful actions in the arrest of Floyd which subsequently resulted in his death. If there's a reasonable chance that the (lethal) amount of fentanyl in his system and severe coronary heart disease would have resulted in his death, Chauvin should walk.



It shouldn't have cost him his life if it was $10,000. Why he was arrested is important not because it means he deserved to die, but because it illustrates that the officers had a lawful reason for detaining him. Most people in his situation do not resist arrest, are not high on fentanyl, do not have his severe health risk factors, and do not die. The officer was using a restraining tactic which he was trained to use as a non-lethal technique. Whether you think the department was right or wrong to decide that, he had every reason to suspect that what he was doing did not present a risk to Floyd's life.

He probably asked to be let go and carry on about his day.

Killing justified.

/s.

shooting a dying man is a crime. as should be kneeling on the neck of someone in the midst of a potentially fatal OD.

people arent dogs, u dont put them down if they eat chocolate.

Was he aware that Floyd was OD'ing on fentanyl? The defense has a clear case. I don't know all the facts, so we will need to wait for our justice system to play this out, but most people (including ITT) are assuming that this is a cut and dry murder case. That certainly doesn't seem the case.

Do you have any legal experience? Your post is quite wrong.