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Oct 13 2020 11:12pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 14 2020 12:59am)
its sad because hirono didnt say squat as a hawaii member of congress when a senator from hawaii, Inouye (D), was having his way with assaulting multiple women

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/09/hirono-finally-speaks-up-about-sexual-assault/

now that she’s a full on swamp demon she thinks it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars for her to call everyone else a sexual predator




She's probably sad that no one has sexually accosted.... her. And feels that repeatedly asking those questions will get the word out, that she's open to the idea.

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Oct 13 2020 11:13pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 13 2020 09:59pm)
its sad because hirono didnt say squat as a hawaii member of congress when a senator from hawaii, Inouye (D), was having his way with assaulting multiple women

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/09/hirono-finally-speaks-up-about-sexual-assault/

now that she’s a full on swamp demon she thinks it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars for her to call everyone else a sexual predator


In his defense, Inouye is a fucking war hero and he could rape 10,000 women and still be a good guy. He is the greatest Asian American who has ever lived. Hell, he might be the greatest ASIAN who ever lived.
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Oct 13 2020 11:18pm
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In his defense, Inouye is a fucking war hero and he could rape 10,000 women and still be a good guy. He is the greatest Asian American who has ever lived. Hell, he might be the greatest ASIAN who ever lived.




Let's all hope that you're making an unrealistic analogy. ^^
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Oct 13 2020 11:30pm
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Let's all hope that you're making an unrealistic analogy. ^^


Given your military background, I'd expect you to know how much of a hero he is. You know how amazing he was.
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Oct 13 2020 11:31pm
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Given your military background, I'd expect you to know how much of a hero he is. You know how amazing he was.


Oath breaker, remember
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Oct 13 2020 11:36pm
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Oath breaker, remember


This is true. He glorifies people like Benedict Arnold and Stonewall Jackson.
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Oct 13 2020 11:39pm
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Given your military background, I'd expect you to know how much of a hero he is. You know how amazing he was.




And that allows him to "rape" women? Like I said, I hope that's just an analogy.
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Oct 13 2020 11:40pm
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And that allows him to "rape" women? Like I said, I hope that's just an analogy.


That's correct. All the evil found in raping 10K women would not outweigh the good he did for our country.
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Oct 13 2020 11:42pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 14 2020 12:18am)
Something being unwritten, or more specifically not written into the law explicitly, does not mean it's vague.

For instance, it's all but certain that the supreme court would strike down a president attempting to pardon himself even though it's not written into the constitution that he cannot.The reason is because a fundamental tenant of western law is that a man cannot be his own judge and jury. This doesn't have to be written into the constitution because it was understood as a fundamental and obvious feature of law at the time the constitution was authored. There simply isn't a need to add a caveat into every single contract, law, and constitution because these things are well understood by anybody who reads them. They are often made explicit to outline the punishments or remedy for specific offenses, but they are fundamental nonetheless.


That's not clear at all. An attempt by the president to pardon himself would provoke a constitutional crisis. The president's pardon power is enumerated clearly in the Constitution, and there are diverse array of legal thought one way or the other.

It is disingenuous to say that "these things are well understood by anybody who reads them", because they are not. Split decisions (e.g. Roe v Wade) make it clear that these questions are not clear even to those most qualified to share their opinion. Contorting the law in an extended display of sophistry, even with good intent, does damage to both the integrity of the Courts and the law.

To circle back to the original case, the majority opinion concluded that the law is vague and precedent dictates that the agency's interpretation of the statute should therefore be respected (https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/opinions/15/15-9504.pdf), and not some argument about what a "reasonable person" would do or "fundamental laws" that are so important that we happened to forget to make them Constitutionally protected.
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That's correct. All the evil found in raping 10K women would not outweigh the good he did for our country.



Ooo-kay. Just wanted to be clear on that.
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