prosecutor was going to investigate his dirtbag freeloader pedo son and your the one thats the sooper trumper

Was this ever an actual criticism of Biden?

Democrats are terrible in foreign policy for the same reason that they're terrible on crime. They have awful understanding of human nature.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Jan 20 2022 09:49pm

I think bad foreign policy is a bipartisan issue at this point. Clinton and Obama were awful in that they appeased our enemies and sowed the seeds of our demise. Bush and Trump were fuck-ups in their execution. Ever since the Reagan-Bush era ended, we haven't handled things as well as we could have. Biden has a chance to make America great again by making an invasion of Ukraine cost prohibitive. Personally, I would love to see the streets of Kiev filled with Russian blood, starvation in Russia not seen since Stalin, etc. but I think the Russians are wise enough to not stir the pot too much.

What did Trump do wrong on foreign policy in your opinion? He wound down the wars and set our withdrawal. He executed the cleanup plan in Syria and actually carried it out competently. We can't give Obama credit for that by saying it was 'his plan', because look at how Joe Biden botched the same thing in Afghanistan. He faced off against Putin testing him in Syria and didn't blink. He actually challenged China where it hurts and where it matters, economically. He formalized the Trump doctrine of economic-not-militaristic interventionalism, which is by far the greatest development of American foreign policy in our lifetimes after the Bush Doctrine. And somehow he sent his son-in-law to Israel and he managed to actually get every Sunni state openly at peace and harmony with Israel by aligning them against Iran as a common enemy.

I think its hard to overstate just how much of a fuck-up Bush and Obama were on foreign policy, not just Clinton appeasing enemies and failing to intervene in genocides, but Obama was just as guilty of reckless interventionalism as Bush and managed to get even more people killed and destabilize even more of the mideast, just with less US boots on the ground mired in it. Trump came along and stabilized the mideast and realigned us against our real competitor, China, and the great irony is that after decades of America plunging cockfirst into every conflict, it took a sex fiend to instill some sober discipline.

How can Goom breathe with all that down his throat?

Yes, Donald Trump did more to deescalate the nuclear confrontation with the DPRK than any modern president. If he had another 4 years he might have been able to normalize relations and bring them into the modern world, though it might a few decades of trump-alikes to unify Korea.
I'm always a bit mystified how liberals who spent decades screaming about Republicans being jingoist warmongers turned around and screamed how anyone who talks peace with Russia or North Korea is a traitor and needs to go on trial for treason

Damn imagine buying into the propaganda this hard. By what metric did trump deescalate the situation with north korea? Handshakes per presidency? Trump had to abort his final attempt at a summit with NK because he realized he was being played for a fool and NK never had any intentions of slowing down their weapon's programs.

They literally finished their nuclear program under Trump's presidency.

Imagine being that gullible

He did the worst: he consecrated, validated, normalized Kim Jong and this regime which is the most horrible on the whole planet.
If all US presidents in history were simply not touching this shit (at least recently and on the light of China's rising influence) there was a reason. You should stop posting now or dodge like a dog.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jan 21 2022 12:48am