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Dec 16 2021 12:34pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Dec 16 2021 01:31pm)
yes m8 my mind is set since we all stopped thinking and just accept everything from our corrupted gov yeah.
Mark this : when everybody is thinking the same, nobody is thinking anymore.

in the next future, you all guys will be scanned through your arm to check your "covid passport" and many more (marburg epidemy is already in preparation with fake vaccines for it)
so yeah sorry to say I'm not really for those kind of global control over the population, I am for freedom but it seems that most people don't care about freedom anymore. sad

if you want to prove me wrong, feel free to show me 1 vaxx'd country that is dealing great against covid, compared to those who doesnt use vaccination and are dealing much better than all your vaxx'd ones. I'm waiting


i asked u for a simple set of data on a topic we were discussing and you respond by more strawmans and asking me to do a research project? no thanks.

give me the vaxx vs unvaxxd numbers for the USA from ur source, then hospitalization and deathrates from your source. because clearly they dont match the ones im reading.
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Dec 16 2021 07:03pm)


Yeah, we need to insist on this too : not only vacicnes gives bad shit effects, the antibodies argument is nulled because a naturel protection is much better on the long term.

Got covid 4 months ago and I did my serology last week, I have 112, the minimum to be considered a protection is 0,16. Should I still get my jabs ? lmao

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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2021 07:34pm)
i asked u for a simple set of data on a topic we were discussing and you respond by more strawmans and asking me to do a research project? no thanks.

give me the vaxx vs unvaxxd numbers for the USA from ur source, then hospitalization and deathrates from your source. because clearly they dont match the ones im reading.


See m8 you just cant show even 1 country doing well after vaccination. Gibraltar is getting hit too with a 100% vaccination rate, but it's fine m8
Why should we limit to usa ? it's not like the avg state of health there is a good metric, in fact it is like the worst on earth...
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Dec 16 2021 12:39pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Dec 16 2021 01:37pm)
See m8 you just cant show even 1 country doing well after vaccination. Gibraltar is getting hit too with a 100% vaccination rate, but it's fine m8
Why should we limit to usa ? it's not like the avg state of health there is a good metric, in fact it is like the worst on earth...


because i made a claim about the USA based on those factors and you said i was wrong.

try to keep conversations on train tracks, not 10 lane wide highways. or ill just stop responding tbh i dont care.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 16 2021 07:21pm)
Everyone: Hey, new variants are likely to happen so we should prevent spread and distribute vaccinations around to make that less likely

>Doesn't do that and hoards vaccines in Western countries

>Virus mutates

Everyone: Surprised pikachu face


Ya sure let's keep vaccinating everyone with a vaccine based on the yuhan strain, against a very mutative virus that has mutated dozens of times already, it will work and its good for the american business ...

and that guy is working in science, in america. it's fine. just trust him

at least france with pasteur institute are a bit less dumb than that, they are making their own "old method" inactive virus vaccine, let's see what comes from it but it will most likely fail too.

Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2021 07:39pm)
because i made a claim about the USA based on those factors and you said i was wrong.

try to keep conversations on train tracks, not 10 lane wide highways. or ill just stop responding tbh i dont care.


I did not paid attention to that lol, still doesnt change much anyways.
seeing more vaxx'd people at hospital is normal if the % of vaxx'd increase over time aswell, so wait for a bit more data and then we will see if I was wrong

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Dec 16 2021 12:44pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Dec 16 2021 01:40pm)
Ya sure let's keep vaccinating everyone with a vaccine based on the yuhan strain, against a very mutative virus that has mutated dozens of times already, it will work and its good for the american business ...

and that guy is working in science, in america. it's fine. just trust him



I did not paid attention to that lol, still doesnt change much anyways.
seeing more vaxx'd people at hospital is normal if the % of vaxx'd increase over time aswell, so wait for a bit more data and then we will see if I was wrong


Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2021 12:13pm)
Unvaccinated people make up a minority of people by population, something like 30-40% depending on the area, and are a majority of people hospitalized with serious complications, something like 60-70% depending on location.

how less people make up more of the people getting hospitalized, especially coming from a group that's largely not elderly, and still feel vindicated is something find as humorous as the remorse they express when gasping for breath on their deathbed stay in a hospital that will bankrupt the family they leave behind.

Herman Cain awards arent sad to me, i laugh as their lungs struggle to fill.


Quote (Melatonina @ Dec 16 2021 12:25pm)
your data is outdated, in here they are already more numerous than unvaxx it must be close to 50-50 though, worldwide overvaxx'd countries are the ones with the highest cases/deaths ..
further more it's clear that vaccines doesn't work anyways so why would you even think about taking it ? (unless you're guinea pig like saucisson)

in australia funny thing is that vaccine caused more deaths than covid it self (source : national health agency of australia..) was about 600 vs 530 deaths or so

they are still selling vaccines made for the first wuhan strain perfectly knowing it does not work anymore since delta, omicron etc. have mutated a lot since then.


u said my data is outdated, now u say lets wait and see.

where is ur up to date data?
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 16 Dec 2021 19:33)
Oxford vaccine was going to be made public for any manufacturer globally to make and distribute it.

We could have kept cases much lower in the third world.

Too bad capitalism got in.



South Africa, where Omicron emerged, has more vaccines than people willing to get vaccinated and already started giving doses away to other African countries.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/exclusive-south-africa-delays-covid-vaccine-deliveries-inoculations-slow-2021-11-24/
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South Africa has asked Johnson & Johnson (JNJ.N) and Pfizer (PFE.N) to delay delivery of COVID-19 vaccines because it now has too much stock, health ministry officials said, as vaccine hesitancy slows an inoculation campaign.



Even earlier in the year, when doses were still scarce, South Africa turned away Oxford vaccines because they considered them to be worthless for the Beta variant circulating there at the time:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20210322-south-africa-gets-rid-of-1-million-surplus-astrazeneca-vaccines-but-why


The vaccine hesitancy in Africa runs deep:
https://time.com/6124974/omicron-africa-vaccines/
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Vaccine hesitancy among health workers is another problem. While high-income countries have at least 80% of their healthcare workers vaccinated, only 27% of health workers in Africa have been fully vaccinated, according to a World Health Organization report published in November. Surveys in some nations have suggested fewer than half of health workers are willing to get the COVID-19 shot.


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Dec 16 2021 12:48pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2021 07:44pm)
u said my data is outdated, now u say lets wait and see.

where is ur up to date data?


cause I thought you were speaking of general hospital cases not just the u.s. ones... in france as I said it's now 50--50 but it was 80/20 before (according to medias ofc..)

the TV spot from gov saying 80% of cases in hospital are unvaxx'd is still up though, of course, and it is fine!
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Little african game :

45,7%

17,2%

which one of those both countries has 45% vaxx'd people and which one has 17,2% ?

......... Population ........... Cases ........... Death ...... Recovered

Egypt.....105,136,158 ..... 371,698 .....21,203 ..... 309,354

Tunisia ..... 11,998,286 ..... 720,143 .....25,445 .....693,297

Lmao

This post was edited by Melatonina on Dec 16 2021 12:58pm
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Quote (Melatonina @ 16 Dec 2021 18:48)
cause I thought you were speaking of general hospital cases not just the u.s. ones... in france as I said it's now 50--50 but it was 80/20 before (according to medias ofc..)

the TV spot from gov saying 80% of cases in hospital are unvaxx'd is still up though, of course, and it is fine!


There are seven times fewer hospitalizations among a million vaccinated than for one million non-vaccinated. Either 86% protection for vaccinations against hospitalization.
Remaining claims are fuck farts who dont deserve the right to have french nationality.
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