We had an actual civil war over 150 years ago. People got so mad they actually walked like 50 miles and shot at each other. We aren't even built like that anymore.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 10 2022 04:41pm

Sounds like classic cristicism of US to me, yet in EU we do not have reached the terrible nightmare that is to lose democracy...
Back to US, they could soon vote for more equalitarian laws. They definitely need it. Their power concentration is terrible. Imagine if they lose democracy...
/nb: im off

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 10 2022 05:00pm

the EU is not democratic at all, all major decisions are made behind closed doors and the bought clown parliament just says yes

Because the amount of personal and party interest that the Politicians received in our day and age, far outweighs that of 150 years back for them to have another event like the civil war.
Trump came slightly close.

That is because the US is being viewed as the leader of the free democratic world. So when we look at the West , we take the United States as the lead, not Germany, not France , Not Italy, Finland or Sweden etc etc etc.

this was excellent, thank you, and the other timelapse was good too.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 11 2022 02:47am

the last one is the best

in terms of democracy and your comments above, I would tend to disagree with this. its too broad a statement to say that it has become a dogmatic controlling ideology. its not that democracy has failed, but rather that certain countries have lost sight of how democracy is supposed to work. the statement "the ruling government divides you in a way via that is unparalleled in history " is very difficult to stand over noting that historically country leaders always had this power.

while you refer to ruling government diverting, this is overtly singling out certain countries, who, we can all admit tick all the boxes in your post. yes they do divert, but not all countries are irresponsible like this. it may well be that more and more countries use the same playbook to divert away from topics (and yes i expect this to happen), but that is not a failure of democracy but rather a failure of governance, because ultimately no matter how a country is run (dictatorship or democracy) it is based on those in charge as to how the people will be treated or mistreated. the mroe concerning issue to my mind is this vested interests that people have above that of all citizens in their country. Also, if power is now in the hands of the government (and not leader of the country) or individuals, over a protracted period of time, then the issue is compounded (as we are seeing).

Therefore while i disagree with your statement, ultimately if all this mudslinging/diverting/creating false narratives continues the pendulum effect is likely to occur in protest to the situation. (i.e. collapse of ruling governments or ideologies in favour of anti establishment or fringe characters). its called history repeating itself.

At the end of the day the key thing that all countries need to be able to do is to enable all of their citizens to live well and prosper noting failure to do so has natural consequences.


This post was edited by ferdia on May 11 2022 06:11am

Not exactly a representative sample of common Russian men tbh. Every single one of the interviewed guys is urban, educated, well-off (by Russian standards) - and for most of them, you can already see from the way they dress and look that they're liberals (by Russian standards). Interview the rubes in the periphery and you will find a lot of jingoism and support for Putin.

I agree with the broader point that a general mobilization would not go over well with large swaths of Russian society and destabilize Putin's reign (which is probably why he hasn't played this card yet), but these clips give a misleading impression; they incorrectly make it seem as if there is no support for Putin's war at all.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 11 2022 07:36am