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did you watch the part where he took question when the American lady was pointing out China's threat?


i saw no Q&A in that video.

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I am changing my view as follows:

previously I had said that Ukraine could not beat Russia. I am changing this view.

From a conventional standpoint it is looking more and more likely that Ukraine CAN beat Russia via conventional force of arms. I think, now:

1. That the Russian army is inept, unskilled, unmotivated, ill equipped and poorly run with no ability to rapidly resupply/repair or bring new tools to the table. (is it too harsh to say they are not experienced in modern warfare?)
2. That the Ukrainian army is well trained, skilled, motivated and getting more and more equipped (with years of advisors experience to boot) and with key victories (such as the news of the sinking of that Russian flagship as well as the fact that Kyiv was not taken) they can actually win.

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It's not just Kyiv though. The areas around Kharkiv, Kherson, and Mykolaiv are showing Russian losses.


whats your view on this ? also, whats your view on Ukraine attacking Russian soil? my position is this would be a tactical blunder noting it might scare putin into doing something...unconventional.

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Quote (Santara @ May 10 2022 01:16pm)
The only "agreement" right now is that Russia SAYS they don't care about Kyiv, because they couldn't make any headway in capturing the capital. I take their statement with a grain of salt. They cared enough to send tens of thousands of soldiers in an attempt to make a quick end to the war and were soundly rebuffed. Now they're pretending like their withdrawal was part of their master plan.

The Russians are losing control of some of the territory they had previously conquered.



The areas around Kyiv (not Kiev) were a strategic withdrawal. The areas around Kharkiv and Izium are tactical losses. Try to keep up, kid.



...and Ukraine is making headway in taking it back.



I follow map updates daily and Russian control over Izium has grown both west, east, and south since phase 2. Like I said you have no idea of what you’re talking about. Already explained how Kharkiv is not really an objective therefore there aren’t BTGs trying to hold those towns in the north which means taking back territory largely comes with little to no resistance.

https://liveuamap.com

Point me to the map where Ukraine engaged Russia close to Izium and pushed them back through conflict?


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Quote (ferdia @ May 10 2022 01:02pm)
I am changing my view as follows:

previously I had said that Ukraine could not beat Russia. I am changing this view.

From a conventional standpoint it is looking more and more likely that Ukraine CAN beat Russia via conventional force of arms. I think, now:

1. That the Russian army is inept, unskilled, unmotivated, ill equipped and poorly run with no ability to rapidly resupply/repair or bring new tools to the table. (is it too harsh to say they are not experienced in modern warfare?)
2. That the Ukrainian army is well trained, skilled, motivated and getting more and more equipped (with years of advisors experience to boot) and with key victories (such as the news of the sinking of that Russian flagship as well as the fact that Kyiv was not taken) they can actually win.



whats your view on this ? also, whats your view on Ukraine attacking Russian soil? my position is this would be a tactical blunder noting it might scare putin into doing something...unconventional.


Attacking Russia with boots-on-the-ground soldiers makes no strategic sense, and Ukraine seems to be listening intently to sound advice. Now if they have targets of opportunity that they can strike that hinder Russia's war effort, like launching missiles at an oil refinery, then I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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I follow map updates daily and Russian control over Izium has grown both west, east, and south since phase 2. Like I said you have no idea of what you’re talking about. Already explained how Kharkiv is not really an objective therefore there aren’t BTGs trying to hold those towns in the north which means taking back territory largely comes with little to no resistance.

https://liveuamap.com

Point me to the map where Ukraine engaged Russia close to Izium and pushed them back through conflict?


I also follow them, as well as news releases. Ukrainian advances have come with significant casualties, so no, I don't buy the "Russia is abandoning positions" around Kharkiv or that positions around it aren't important, because Ukraine can threaten supply lines into Izium from Kharkiv.
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Up to april 21 enjoy



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May 10 2022 02:23pm
Also; is this true ?

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Attacking Russia with boots-on-the-ground soldiers makes no strategic sense, and Ukraine seems to be listening intently to sound advice. Now if they have targets of opportunity that they can strike that hinder Russia's war effort, like launching missiles at an oil refinery, then I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.



I also follow them, as well as news releases. Ukrainian advances have come with significant casualties, so no, I don't buy the "Russia is abandoning positions" around Kharkiv or that positions around it aren't important, because Ukraine can threaten supply lines into Izium from Kharkiv.



Dude look at the map I posted. It shows north of Kharkiv Ukraine taking back territory. If there was Russians fighting back and or actively defending you’d have the appropriate icons showing tank/infantry etc clashes. You’d have tons of video evidence on telegram and Twitter, and so on. There hasn’t been that there since they’ve been taking territory back.

A real counter offensive from Kharkiv would be in the south east where there are multiple Russian BTGs. Some Russians are defending that left flank while others are pushing down and east from Izium. Pay attention to what they’ve said when they started their phase two, they were pretty clear that they’ll focus on Donbas.
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Ty info

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Dude look at the map I posted. It shows north of Kharkiv Ukraine taking back territory. If there was Russians fighting back and or actively defending you’d have the appropriate icons showing tank/infantry etc clashes. You’d have tons of video evidence on telegram and Twitter, and so on. There hasn’t been that there since they’ve been taking territory back.

A real counter offensive from Kharkiv would be in the south east where there are multiple Russian BTGs. Some Russians are defending that left flank while others are pushing down and east from Izium. Pay attention to what they’ve said when they started their phase two, they were pretty clear that they’ll focus on Donbas.


Ukraine pushes Russian troops back in counter-offensive near Kharkiv

KHARKIV: Ukraine said on Tuesday (May 10) its forces had recaptured villages from Russian troops north and northeast of Kharkiv, pressing a counter-offensive that could signal a shift in the war's momentum and jeopardise Russia's main advance.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/ukraine-invasion-russia-troops-recapture-villages-kharkiv-2676226
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Quote (ofthevoid @ May 10 2022 03:37pm)
Dude look at the map I posted. It shows north of Kharkiv Ukraine taking back territory. If there was Russians fighting back and or actively defending you’d have the appropriate icons showing tank/infantry etc clashes. You’d have tons of video evidence on telegram and Twitter, and so on. There hasn’t been that there since they’ve been taking territory back.

A real counter offensive from Kharkiv would be in the south east where there are multiple Russian BTGs. Some Russians are defending that left flank while others are pushing down and east from Izium. Pay attention to what they’ve said when they started their phase two, they were pretty clear that they’ll focus on Donbas.


Same map I posted. Look east of Kharkiv.
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