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May 10 2022 08:28am
Quote (ferdia @ 10 May 2022 22:18)
xD

some quotes from that video:

"Liberalism and Democracy are opposing positions."
and
German Finance Mininster: "elections can not be allowed to change economic policy" loved the response from the Greek: "this is excellent news to the chinese communist party because they believe that too".

Key take-aways:

1. not a fan of obama, and outlined to my mind the clear reason why trump was elected (i.e. not putin but rather the inability of the administration to take care of all of its people, not just the top earners).
2. his overall position was that capitalism is destroying itself. he outlined clearly why this was his position, he predicts the next collapse and i cant find fault with his argument.

staying on topic, or rather, returning to the topic at hand, here is another quote from the video: "what happens in a democracy when two principals clash...well we sit around the table like civilized people and we find a compromise. this is what democracies do".


did you watch the part where he took question when the American lady was pointing out China's threat?
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May 10 2022 08:45am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 10 2022 03:19pm)
Stop quoting me please, you don't know me, and i'm glad you never will.
You already said im "far left" wich is completely wrong, stop that and stick on what you know better: posting Youtube videos and attach it a bias title following your needs. :lol: :rofl:


TBH you're a sick piece of crap that's exactly what I think. You can't command anyone here in PARD and if you can't handle discourse here I'd advice you to just bugger off.

The sources I posted show exactly what happened and it's history. Once again it sucks for you cuz you don't have any counter arguments. EZd
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May 10 2022 09:20am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 May 2022 15:32)
Tactical retreats from around Kharkiv doesn’t mean Ukraine is winning it just means the Russians don’t care enough to hold that area. One side is literally firing hundreds of artillery rounds, hitting dozens of targets on a daily basis all over Ukraine while the other is mostly in a defensive position, increasingly unable to reinforce the front. That’s the reality on the ground and you sound very clueless on what’s actually happening in this war.


Ukraine now get some artillery from the USA and other countries, so they are not defenseless any longer.
I dont know who will win the war, I consider both sides more or less equal in power:
Russia is a bigger country, but Ukraine defending their lives and their families are more motivated than attackers.
Also Ukraine gets supplies from many countries, while Russia gets sanctions and braindrain. Soon Putin will have to make a choice: keep social spending or keep war spending. And its not an easy choice to make.
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May 10 2022 09:27am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 10 2022 11:20am)
Ukraine now get some artillery from the USA and other countries, so they are not defenseless any longer.
I dont know who will win the war, I consider both sides more or less equal in power:
Russia is a bigger country, but Ukraine defending their lives and their families are more motivated than attackers.
Also Ukraine gets supplies from many countries, while Russia gets sanctions and braindrain. Soon Putin will have to make a choice: keep social spending or keep war spending. And its not an easy choice to make.



Its not easy to move heavy weapons to the front, nor is it easy for conscripts to magically know how to work together for example in tank crews or understand tank formations. That type of stuff requires experience (no a few weeks of camps in Poland isn’t enough).

They’re not equal though that’s the thing I can’t speak for infantry but Russia has a very clear artillery and bombing superiority it’s not even close.
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May 10 2022 09:32am
Now auditioning Ukrainian strippers. We stand with Ukraine. The aid we longed for.

https://t.me/ASupersharij/9431

This post was edited by Norlander on May 10 2022 09:34am
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May 10 2022 09:33am
Quote (Norlander @ May 10 2022 08:19am)
Any proof?


That hundreds of Russians are dying per day? If we assume Ukrainian casualty estimates are overstated by 30% (and the claims are about 26,000 currently), then that leaves us with about 20,000 Russian KIA over 80 days - about 250/day.

That Ukraine is engaged in counteroffensives that are reclaiming territory?

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May 10 2022 09:36am
Quote (Santara @ 10 May 2022 18:33)
That hundreds of Russians are dying per day? If we assume Ukrainian casualty estimates are overstated by 30% (and the claims are about 26,000 currently), then that leaves us with about 20,000 Russian KIA over 80 days - about 250/day.

That Ukraine is engaged in counteroffensives that are reclaiming territory?

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/INTERACTIVE_UKRAINE_CONTROL-MAP-DAY76_May-10_INTERACTIVE-Russia-Ukraine-War-Who-controls-what-Day-76.jpg


Didn't they leave Kyevan Oblast a month ago? Nothing has changed.
Why thirty? There can be any number. Works fine as propaganda. If I was Zelensky I would never tell that we are losing and our casualties are greatly exceed casualties of the enemy.

This post was edited by Norlander on May 10 2022 09:39am
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May 10 2022 09:38am
Quote (Santara @ May 10 2022 04:33pm)
That hundreds of Russians are dying per day? If we assume Ukrainian casualty estimates are overstated by 30% (and the claims are about 26,000 currently), then that leaves us with about 20,000 Russian KIA over 80 days - about 250/day.

That Ukraine is engaged in counteroffensives that are reclaiming territory?

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/INTERACTIVE_UKRAINE_CONTROL-MAP-DAY76_May-10_INTERACTIVE-Russia-Ukraine-War-Who-controls-what-Day-76.jpg



kyiv and its surroundings are irrelevant (in this context). how does the map of the eastern front today, compare with the map 1 month ago. that to my mind will determine who is winning and who is not.
i.e. when i look at the map now i would say russia controls more today.

i am making a point of not referring to winning and losing as ultimately:
1. i see ukraine retaining its soverign state status after the war, therefore "won" for want of a better expression.
2. i see russian having a phyrric victory therefore "lost" for want of a better expression.

nothing new here and all said before.

This post was edited by ferdia on May 10 2022 09:39am
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May 10 2022 09:44am
Quote (Santara @ May 10 2022 11:33am)
That hundreds of Russians are dying per day? If we assume Ukrainian casualty estimates are overstated by 30% (and the claims are about 26,000 currently), then that leaves us with about 20,000 Russian KIA over 80 days - about 250/day.

That Ukraine is engaged in counteroffensives that are reclaiming territory?

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/INTERACTIVE_UKRAINE_CONTROL-MAP-DAY76_May-10_INTERACTIVE-Russia-Ukraine-War-Who-controls-what-Day-76.jpg



Sumy and Kiev, the Russians literally packed up their shit and went home, they weren’t pushed back through force. In Kharkiv they are being pushed out but again, that theatre they’re not committed to. Commitment to hold and/or push in is shown by the number of BTGs they have deployed in an area. They have peanuts around north Kharkiv versus Izium.

I’ll believe Ukraine is winning when they have offensives in areas where Russians actually have a ton of troops I.e. Izium, Popasna, Kherson, Rubizne, etc. not territory they don’t plan to annex such as north of Kharkiv.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 10 2022 09:45am
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May 10 2022 09:47am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 10 2022 08:32am)
Tactical retreats from around Kharkiv doesn’t mean Ukraine is winning it just means the Russians don’t care enough to hold that area. One side is literally firing hundreds of artillery rounds, hitting dozens of targets on a daily basis all over Ukraine while the other is mostly in a defensive position, increasingly unable to reinforce the front. That’s the reality on the ground and you sound very clueless on what’s actually happening in this war.


LMFAO, try to know what you're talking about when addressing me.

A strategic withdrawal is one where they decide to cede territory. A tactical retreat means you were beaten on the field and withdrew.

Russian supply is atrocious. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/30/russia-military-logistics-supply-chain/
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