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May 29 2020 04:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 30 May 2020 00:16)
read the stuff circled in mspaint


It's easy they are talking about the real police, i means oups not the racist dangerous morons who deserve to be neutralized.

Because yes, good cops exists.
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So if I don't support denying a guy accused of police brutality his civil rights and due process and support the lynch mob, I'm not a real civil libertarian?
I guess that makes sense in the same world that thinks that if you don't give preferential treatment to certain classes of people based solely on their race, you can't call yourself an egalitarian.



Lol accused
Watch that video again slowly maybe you’ll see a man who was already in cuffs face down on the asphalt with a 230 pound man on top of him
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Lol accused
Watch that video again slowly maybe you’ll see a man who was already in cuffs face down on the asphalt with a 230 pound man on top of him


Which may or may not have anything to do with why he died
What we know so far is that there's no medical evidence of asphyxia or strangulation, and George Floyd was exhibiting trouble breathing and other symptoms of medical distress when he was standing upright with no restraint but handcuffs.

If they can't even construct a theory of the crime that proves it beyond even bare skepticism let alone reasonable doubt before any defense is presented, they have no business charging him. Its not enough to get past a grand jury.
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May 29 2020 04:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 06:35pm)
Which may or may not have anything to do with why he died
What we know so far is that there's no medical evidence of asphyxia or strangulation, and George Floyd was exhibiting trouble breathing and other symptoms of medical distress when he was standing upright with no restraint but handcuffs.

If they can't even construct a theory of the crime that proves it beyond even bare skepticism let alone reasonable doubt before any defense is presented, they have no business charging him. Its not enough to get past a grand jury.


He might have swallowed a bag of bump to hide it from the cops and died of an overdose.
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 05:35pm)
Which may or may not have anything to do with why he died
What we know so far is that there's no medical evidence of asphyxia or strangulation, and George Floyd was exhibiting trouble breathing and other symptoms of medical distress when he was standing upright with no restraint but handcuffs.

If they can't even construct a theory of the crime that proves it beyond even bare skepticism let alone reasonable doubt before any defense is presented, they have no business charging him. Its not enough to get past a grand jury.



Cmere real quick
Lay on the floor and let me set my knee on you for 10 minutes

It’d be a fun experiment

Meanwhile

After Michael Brown, an unarmed black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo., a Post investigation found that the FBI undercounted fatal police shootings by more than half. This is because reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
We always hear more about black deaths than we do anyone elses
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 05:35pm)
Which may or may not have anything to do with why he died
What we know so far is that there's no medical evidence of asphyxia or strangulation, and George Floyd was exhibiting trouble breathing and other symptoms of medical distress when he was standing upright with no restraint but handcuffs.

If they can't even construct a theory of the crime that proves it beyond even bare skepticism let alone reasonable doubt before any defense is presented, they have no business charging him. Its not enough to get past a grand jury.


:rofl:

Reasonable doubt is the standard for conviction, not charges. The standard for arrest is probable cause, which is a far lower standard and is cleared by a fucking mile based on the video. The standard for charges is a bit more nebulous and rests on what the prosecutor thinks is appropriate.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 29 2020 05:26pm
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:rofl:

Reasonable doubt is the standard for conviction, not charges. The standard for arrest is probable cause, which is a far lower standard and is cleared by a fucking mile based on the video. The standard for charges is a bit more nebulous and rests on what the prosecutor thinks is appropriate.


The standard for charges is that the state argues it can make a case beyond a reasonable doubt. The standard for conviction is that a jury finds no reasonable doubt after the defense has argued against the state.
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The standard for charges is that the state argues it can make a case beyond a reasonable doubt. The standard for conviction is that a jury finds no reasonable doubt after the defense has argued against the state.


clearly a case when there is a video showing without a doubt excessive force
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clearly a case when there is a video showing without a doubt excessive force


Again, not unless you can establish that force led to his death.
The facts presented in their own charging complaint don't sustain that even absent any contrary argument.
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May 29 2020 06:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 07:03pm)
Again, not unless you can establish that force led to his death.
The facts presented in their own charging complaint don't sustain that even absent any contrary argument.


the force used undoubtedly contributed and that is cause enough for any other citizen to be arrested
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