History lesson as per "9th may":

The Soviets liberated and raped. Every tenth victim died. Either by suicide or at the hands of the perpetrators after the fact.

The battered women begged the Red Army soldiers to shoot them. They were almost outraged: "the Soviet soldier does not do such things." The liberation of May 9, celebrated by the Russians, meant a time of unimaginable trauma for millions of women from today's Poland, Germany and Hungary.

Two million - this is probably how many women were raped during the Red Army's march west in 1945 and shortly after the end of the war.
Sexual violence became a common experience, even affecting girls and old women.

The writer Vasily Grossman remembered the "fear and terror" in the eyes of Russian women who had just been liberated from German captivity. "This is not liberation," reported Kławdia Małaczenko. Maria Szapował: "I have waited so many days and nights for the Red Army. And now our soldiers treat us worse than the Germans."

Jewish women who had escaped from a German prison were raped in Berlin. The same fate befell the wives and daughters of German communists, who literally "came out of the underground" after the fall of the Reich and offered that the women would wash and cook for the Red Army. In the maternity hospital and orphanage Haus Dahlem, nuns, girls, old women, women in advanced pregnancy and postpartum were raped. The Red Army soldiers always had one answer: Frau ist Frau.

You can just come out and say that you wish the axis powers had won why beat around the bush?

Lol. My country suffered both from nazi and soviet occupation.
Hitler, Stalin, Putin: all these people are pure evil. A devil mind in a human body.
The Hitler was the worst one to us, but since Putin is still alive we cant be sure what will be the final ranking.
For sure Putin has learned from Nazi/Soviet failures so he will be even more cruel than them, when given a chance.

lol sauceman

"Ukrainian strategist" --> Ukrainian propaganda.

The source I posted is the official source --> 2008 Bucharest NATO summit. Basically the mother of all sources because this is where it all started and you try to counter this by quoting a random "Ukrainian strategist", shows exactly how braindead you are. Try harder next time lol.




Again, you don't post sources. Even if it were true, that's not Putin speaking.

Now, this here is Putin's speech at the the 2007 Munich security conference, I recommend that you watch it (and all other "Russia bad" posters here that are all being played by Western propaganda)

Channel "RussianPerspective" clownrie...
The best you can do is to cherry pickup videos and attach a new title following your personal feelings.
Ukrainians said themselves they had no choice than to trigger NATO, else they would have been absorbed by Russia in the next years.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 10 2022 01:08am

We're talking international politics you dumbchit.

The sources I post are official sources, the one posting his feelings is you. Imbecile

Zelensky adviser:


source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H50ho9Dlrms


You can find various transcripts and other interviews if you want.

The conversation was about Ukraine’s NATO prospects. When the journalist asked the expert whether the Donbass war could be ended if Ukraine was granted MAP (Membership Action Plan) status, he said that this would most likely push Russia towards a major military operation against Ukraine. “Because they will blow us away infrastructural and have to turn everything here into a ruin.” He stated:
“They (the Russians) should do it before we join NATO, so that we don’t become interesting for NATO. More precisely, not interesting as a destroyed area. There is a 99.9 percent probability that our price for joining to NATO is a big war with Russia. And if we don’t join NATO, Russia will take us within 10 to 12 years.”
When asked which variant was better, Arestovich had no doubts: “Of course a big war with Russia and as a result joining NATO on the basis of defeating Russia.” He detailed what a “great war” with Russia meant:
“It’s an air offensive, an invasion of the Russian armies deployed on our borders, a siege of Kiev, an attempt to encircle the troops of the Donbass operation, a breakthrough through the Isthmus of Crimea, gaining access to the Kakhovskoye reservoir to supply Crimea with water, an offensive from the territory of Belarus, the creation of new people’s republics, an airborne landing, acts of sabotage against critical infrastructure, etc. This is a full-fledged war. And the probability of this is 99 percent.”

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 10 2022 01:33am

Ofc this shitshow was going to end in a war. That's exactly the point I'm making how didn't you get that

You didn't even take the time to watch the vid I posted above -Putin's speech @Munich 2007 where he's basically pointing this out.

this video was posted a few weeks ago, the infamous 2019 "lets go to war with russia".



i dont aportion blame but i would rather just provide insights then insights and base arguments / namecalling!

This post was edited by ferdia on May 10 2022 02:32am

The only thing you say is that it's "all the fault of NATO" while the ONLY truth is Putin-the-genius tried to build USSR-2. And is about to fail now.
Ofc people who love "strong nationalists leaders" are disappointed.



I posted the link few weeks ago, in these forums, and the interview was in 2019. (i think there's another interview post invasion, where he's talking about civilians evacuation problematic, would have to check)

What's infamous is, as a leader, to say : "oh, ok Russia, please corrupt me, dont kill me, i give you the ukrainian people, they will love to pay your yatches..."

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 10 2022 02:47am