Alright, are we ceding the point the vaccines work and prevent the degree of spread of Covid & reduces symptoms in break through cases?

As for corruption yeah the pharma and healthcare industry is riff with it. You aren't going to gotcha me on shitting on corporations.

However, for the particular conspiracies around Covid I don't buy it.

Pharma & medical companies are going to make more money through elective procedures and recurring treatments. Covid has put a major halts on their ability to do the profitable procedures. Vaccines as preventative measures are typically not the highest margin products. So why would there be some global conspiracy pushing vaccines and faking hospitals being full and pushing hospital policies that prevent them from doing as many of their most profitable procedures?

I mean if you are saying Pfizer or Moderna in particular are pushing unnecessary boosters to profit then yeah I could see that being a reasonable conspiracy or means of corruption. I don't buy it being some conspiracy spanning across every country on earth specifically to spite political factions in the US.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiaWh0dHBzOi8vdGhlaGlsbC5jb20vcG9saWN5L2hlYWx0aGNhcmUvNTg1MDY1LXBmaXplci1jZW8tc2F5cy1mb3VydGgtdmFjY2luZS1zaG90LW1heS1ldmVudHVhbGx5LWJlLW5lZWRlZNIBbWh0dHBzOi8vdGhlaGlsbC5jb20vcG9saWN5L2hlYWx0aGNhcmUvNTg1MDY1LXBmaXplci1jZW8tc2F5cy1mb3VydGgtdmFjY2luZS1zaG90LW1heS1ldmVudHVhbGx5LWJlLW5lZWRlZD9hbXA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Just gonna leave that here for ya >_> One of the top headlines on google news today

This post was edited by WickedDarkJuggalos on Dec 9 2021 08:30pm

When you are exposed to tetanus you get a booster for that vaccine, don't see anyone complaining about that. There are new flu vaccines every year, does that mean the flu is a conspiracy?

If you have a basic understanding of pathology I don't see why it is some huge surprise that a highly mutagenic endemic novel respiratory disease would require boosters. As I was just saying in my last post Pfizer probably has incentives to push boosters more frequently than necessary, but I don't see the huge gotcha some people are trying to make boosters into.

I am not saying any of the theories you just listed. You said if they are pushing boosters to increase their profits, whatever.

Here is a headline from just today where a CEO of one of the vaccine producers is saying we may (will) need another one of his company’s shots. As if the CEO’s input is relevant to whether or not anything is medically necessary.

To be fair I was more addressing the topic and article and not your particular stance. I tried to make the subject of my comment fairly general since you were just posting an article.

Saying they work is a generic term. Technically you could be right if it had a 1% effectiveness, but would 1% be considered a viable tool against the virus? No. That's what was being debated is that no one will know how effective they really are.

I wasn't talking about big pharma in general, or medical facilities. I was referring to the specific investors to these specific vaccines. They don't care about about other procedures.They are in the business of getting their millions of vaccines sold for billions on their return.

Well my earlier posts was for example showing places with higher vaccinations rates having several times fewer deaths than locations with lower vaccinations rate, I would point in that direction as supporting the vaccines being effective.

Also I don't see how you'd think investors in these specific vaccines would be able to manipulate the entire medical industry and how companies like Pfizer & Moderna wouldn't have other products that are suffering as a consequence of the pandemic, let alone that other massive medical companies that weren't at the forefront of the vaccine rollout would just sit back and let them ruin their profits with no response.

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This post was edited by lodd222 on Dec 9 2021 10:22pm

Again you can point out data that is corrupt and promote it as gospel doesn't make it factual.


These investors are investing in pharmaceutical companies. Not allowing elective surgeries is not going to hurt them especially when talking about supplying the vaccines globally.