vermont has a lower vaccination rate than israel and you say they have a lower death rate?. also you need to give links with your data ty



it will be interesting how the insurance companies balance out as more data comes in "vax"/un"vax"

Unfortunately we probably won't ever know the efficacy of the vaccines for many reasons. The biggest ones off the top of my head would be because it is heavily politicized which creates conflict on its own, and the collection of data is flawed. Not to mention the dreaded natural immunity factor. Which I personally believe in having contracted covid in November of last year and have been knowingly and extensively exposed to it in August this year and again in late October this year, and tested negative both times. Also, I have relatives in the medical field one being a respiratory therapist and said not that she is doing a hard count of vaxed and unvaxed but it seems to be close in ratio as to who is being admitted.

I never said they had a lower vaccination rate, they have a higher vaccination rate than Israel.

Vermont death count: 426
Vermont population: 623,989
Deaths per/100k: 68.3
Vermont full vaccination percentage: 76%

Israel full vaccination percentage: 62.8%



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/covid-19-vaccine-dashboard
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=OWID_WRL

Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much, also even if the admissions were equal and say 70% of the population were vaccinated, that would mean 30% of the population are accounting for 50% of admissions.

Lol...it does to the person it pertains to. Also, you can throw percentages around all you want. They mean nothing when the data is corrupted.

This post was edited by OoSPACEoO on Dec 9 2021 07:20pm

The one thing covid vaxxers and covid anti-vaxxers have in common is neither are fully vaccinated.

Tell me you don't understand statistics without telling me you don't understand statistics.

If you're claimed percentages were correct, why does it contradict the CDC websites own stats. The CDC website states that the covid vaccine is 94.1 % effective against contracting covd, but your 70% vaxed accounting for 50% of hospital emissions are very far off that 94.1% .

Tell me you're not blowing smoke out your ass without blowing smoke out your ass

I was using a hypothetical number to show how your anecdote does not show that the vaccines are ineffective, even if the anecdote was representative of the actual hospitalization numbers.

As for the actual numbers? CDC numbers could be off, especially given emergence and prevalence of new/different strains. I mean even then with statistics the values are always going to have some margin of error, but I'd imagine the issue with wherever you are getting that 94.1% number is you misinterpreting data and what the statistic is supposedly conveying.

There is a margin of error across the board. In regards to the data itself, the collection of data, and the calculation of data. So the true efficacy will never be known as previously stated. Combine that with political motives and investors pushing for the maximum return on their investment and the true efficacy will be never be know and always debated. I imagine the issue is you not accepting that corruption can take precedence in a highly political and lucrative issue.