I did mean NATO. Simple and obvious mistake on my part. You knew exactly what i meant though so point remains.

I don't care what Russia threatens because Russia doesn't get to tell NATO what to do.

NATO was pretty serious about the Ukraine. I don't know why you think they weren't. They were well into the process of doing so.

Trying to apply 60 year old circumstances to a knee-jerk dictator move in 2022 isn't applicable.

Thats exactly what NATO is an atavism from the phony "Cold War" existing in its current state without cause or reason to the great detriment of the United States finances.
United States has been hostile to Russia ever since the second half of the Bush Jr. Presidency.
Passing uncalled for sanction after sanction for no rhyme or reason at all, Russia should be used to it by now.

You're not a pragmatic person are you, U.S. State Department paid "protestors" $200 a day to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine.
Ethnic Russians do not support the new regime change, none the less they are stripped of their right to vote in federal elections and told they may not succeed.
Begins hostilities of Ukraine shelling civilian centers indiscriminately right after the euro maidan color revolution.

Could just leave those people in that region alone, but no they continue their attacks on people of that region they do not have political jurisdiction over for 8 fucking years.
Ukraine arms trains supplies and pays a Neo-Nazi branch of their national guard tasked at killing the people there whom they have great prejudice against.
Did you even watch any of the atrocities they have committed over the last 8 years?

Russia isn't going to collapse in a hurry or "lose all it's money". Instead of trading with the West they'll have to rely on themselves and don't forget it's the largest country on this planet. It's like a damn continent.

China has been insulating themselves for centuries. Even today if you want to be involved with China you have to play it by their book. The CCP doesn't give a shit about far left progressive wokeness and claims from the West that they are the bad guys have just made them dig in more and they're expanding their army as seen on recent military parades.

Look at the size of China's economy and try to explain to me they've done bad, are going to collapse or lose all their money.

India, Saudi Arabia , Belarus , China , all siding with Russia over the West
these countries i think have the ability to create there own financial system which would probably over time crumble the Petrol Dollar

Another Genius in Government

What do you mean leave the people alone who they don't have jurisdiction over? Do you mean the provinces which were fighting against a foreign backed rebellion? It seems like both sides play the game to their advantage and only use terms like human rights and to prevent genocide when it justifys their desire for more security. Im just confused how Russia supporting opposition candidates for years was acceptable to you but the west supporting pro western reform candidates isn't.

LOL

Please don't come back to this forum. It was a nice place while you were gone full of fairly reasonable discussion....like damn dude go look at their total gdp compared to the other countries let alone the wests marginal productivity of labour due to having better equipment...but I mean you can dream I guess

This post was edited by Mossom on Mar 3 2022 09:45pm

lefties never like me cuz i bring facts and embarrass them
they never want to debate me cuz i post facts

Facts
1. FBI was behind Jan 6
2. The Election was rigged, Trump won
3. U.S Overthrew Ukraine in 2014
Sorry facts bother you Sheep





This post was edited by darkhead69 on Mar 3 2022 09:48pm

This is no joke crossbones, you seem unaware...

Those countries react to those things that they see as a treats and provocations.

Who the hell are we to police them anyways. Let them be stuck over there, we are free here.

There are idiots on both sides. Look at the 4 years of the idiotic far left screeching about Russian collusion. Some of the dummies still believe it.