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May 8 2022 05:08pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 9 May 2022 07:00)
china are experts at getting what they want economically without firing a single shot like they did in africa

i think you made a post about china getting kicked out somewhere in africa a while ago, but overall i would say that they are pretty successful at exploiting resources without war


They were also kicked out by Sri Lanka for a while. But unlike other superpowers , they actually waited. They went through the legal process of that country to work things out, And just shifted their attention else where.
If it were others, a special regime change during elections or special operation would have been inevitable in the name of human rights and freedom. :rofl:
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May 9 2022 12:01am
Quote (ferdia @ May 8 2022 09:00pm)
before i say anything else, yes your right, based on all that more people in the north do NOT want to reunite with the republic of ireland (i agree with your correction).

i pulled this from your link: https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2022/04/05/news/nationalists-urged-not-to-be-disheartened-by-poll-support-for-united-ireland-2633602/

Ultimately it looks like the nationalists (sinn fein, lets call them the baddies ok) want to reunite with the republic asap noting their army council are all getting older and they want a united ireland in their lifetime. therefore, when your data is accurate, it means that looking to unite with the republic now would be terrible for northern society noting the deep divide.

i am irish. i call the nationalists the baddies because what they are doing (seeking re-unification) is too early and will lead to awful social issues, even if ultimately their goal is something i would look for in the long term (100+ years) if they wanted to join us. the main issue right now: when we see sinn fein being the dominant party, and the loyalists potentially not entering powersharing government. ideally a more moderate unionist party will replace the DUP, noting the DUP politic's is a dead end.


My view is, it wasn't right to move loads of English and Scottish people over there in the first place but now it has happened and peace is on a knife edge it should just stay as the status quo
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May 9 2022 12:24am
GDP per capita south of the border is 2.5 times higher than in the north.
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May 9 2022 01:09am
hurra hurra victory :=]

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May 9 2022 02:05am
Putin parade news:
- Russian TV hacked with a message telling Russians they had Ukrainian blood on their hands
- Vladimir Putin claims West 'was planning to invade Russia' as he justifies war.
hurra lol

need translation validation btw


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 9 2022 02:07am
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 9 May 2022 11:05)
Putin parade news:
- Russian TV hacked with a message telling Russians they had Ukrainian blood on their hands
- Vladimir Putin claims West 'was planning to invade Russia' as he justifies war.
hurra lol

need translation validation btw
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NINTCHDBPICT000731658671.jpg


"There's blood of hundreds of thousands Ukrainians, hundreds of killed children on your hands. MSM lies. Stop the war."

Seems like "Channel 1" doesn't give up so easily after their editor being arrested and forced to emigrate for wielding "stop the war" banner in evening live.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 9 May 2022 01:05)
No the Chinese will not do that at the moment.
The only core issue when it comes to sovereignty is Taiwan.

Perhaps you have watch too much of the media from your side of the Globe. The Chinese have not been interfering or invading lands or bombing anyone for the past 40 years.
Border conflicts and skirmish with India happens all the time ending up with no bullets fired and they went Kung Fu fighting with the Indians.

I think you misunderstood me, I know that the Chinese will not just send their tanks to Siberia to try and annex it. I was just shitposting about the fact that the conditions (large Chinese minority etc.) to use Putin's playbook against him would be there in Siberia.
Outright invading Siberia would only be an option if Russia once again collapsed like it did during the 90s. And even then, China would probably flood the region with Chinese people rather than Chinese tanks.

Generally speaking, China prefers economic conquest over military conquest - and Putin burning all bridges between Russia and the West means that he is turning his country into China's bitch anyway. Geopolitically, China is the big and unambiguous winner of the war in Ukraine.



The fact that China has not been invading or bombing anyone for 40 years is not as meaningful as you think it is - China has been economically conquering the world for the past 40 years after all, why would they change a modus operandi which is working like a charm? Also keep in mind that China was involved in the Vietnam war and is constantly saber-rattling with regard to Taiwan. And also that it is creating artificial islands for military bases in the South China sea and so on.
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May 9 2022 02:30am
Okay, so I watched some live footage from the military parade in Moscow. Am I the only one who thought that Putin looked very weak and sickly, also that he was limping and generally came across like an old man?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 9 2022 03:30am)
Okay, so I watched some live footage from the military parade in Moscow. Am I the only one who thought that Putin looked very weak and sickly, also that he was limping and generally came across like an old man?


he looks like a 70 year old cancer patient
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