I know, this is why i'm asking the russian guy who is living near ukraine, to get some hope...
At least this guy is 70.

Gopnik invasion not going well. Putin thinks killing Ukrainians will cure his cancer. Its rotted his brain.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 8 2022 07:56am

... so is Putin?! And with the rumors about Putin's ill health, the other guy (Patrushev) might well outlast him, despite being a year older. My broader point is that Russia's current behavior is not just a "Putin problem", it's a problem with the entirety of Russia's current ruling class.

It's a whole old generation in ex-KGB, and probably a part of the army. But not the whole structure, the collapse in 1991 was so sloppy, people were in the street doing nothing.
I think the very core is like that, but certainly not the whole ruling class like you say, the system is also about on money, and west = money.

Yeah, you're right, that's a good point: I doubt that Russia's economic leaders and oligarchs are particularly keen on military adventures which interfere with their business and their luxurious lifestyle. I don't think they are ideologically committed to Russian neo-imperialism like the generals and FSB figures. It's just that the latter group is in charge and the oligarchs have to go along with it if they don't want to end up in a gulag like Khodorkovsky.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 8 2022 01:33pm

if Putin is ousted its possible we might get worse. Russia seems to have an inferiority complex which will be compounded by this war. Inferiorty complex might be the wrong expression, say rather a "the world is out to get us" attitude, which, in fact, it is.



pretty sure he will never get our of jail and is more likely to rot away forever. while we might all want him to be the next leader, its a pipe dream.


also sorry for the afk and delay in review and response, i was busy! hope everyone had a nice weekendXD



what ? where is this coming from ? Russia would only give up nukes if it was invaded in a world war. and they would sooner nuke the planet then surrender. they have invaded ukraine. if they leave ukraine it will not suddenly become russia suing for peace. forget about this idea of Russia giving up its nukes. unless i read you wrong ?



for the bolded i would say it differently, the EU would reconisder in all situations and work with russia. ultimately russia has alot of issues, not just putin. there are enough books out there to read why russia is close but not too close to the EU from a cultural standpoint. yes at a government level they will sometimes have equal interests, but russia is massive and it takes a little team (read : years) for things to thaw and improve. not for the next little while i guess (10+)

This post was edited by ferdia on May 8 2022 01:14pm

Let's say being 30-50 in 1991 so it's 61-81+ old in 2022, many of these USSR lovers are aged already.



Yes, it's the common theory, especially for immediate replacement in actual conditions. It's also not sure. Maybe we could see a collapse, there's alot of guys like this waiting; https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 8 2022 01:56pm

Navalny about Crimea

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/world/europe/navalnys-comments-on-crimea-ignite-russian-twittersphere.html