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Dec 7 2021 09:29am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 7 2021 07:21am)
you're not concerned that many of the side effects of the jab could be present, or worse, should u contract long haul covid effects?

the only one i know of that isnt present in both categories is the yet to be proven worries on infertility.


This is the first I've heard anyone suggest that covid actually directly causes heart attacks, extremely skeptical all things considered, namely the gaslighting campaign recently pushed in regards to all these vaccine deaths in young people.

It's due to stress!
Children have always had heart attacks!
It's because you're eating worse than before suddenly!

It would seem all too convenient to assign blame to the disease what is caused by the vaccine. Plus I've been around covid sick or covid exposed people plenty and haven't been sick in any way for like 2 years.

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on Dec 7 2021 09:29am
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Dec 7 2021 09:31am
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This is the first I've heard anyone suggest that covid actually directly causes heart attacks, extremely skeptical all things considered, namely the gaslighting campaign recently pushed in regards to all these vaccine deaths in young people.

It's due to stress!
Children have always had heart attacks!
It's because you're eating worse than before suddenly!

It would seem all too convenient to assign blame to the disease what is caused by the vaccine. Plus I've been around covid sick or covid exposed people plenty and haven't been sick in any way for like 2 years.



We had the data on the effects of Covid before the vaccines even existed dude.
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Dec 7 2021 09:34am
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Dec 7 2021 10:29am)
This is the first I've heard anyone suggest that covid actually directlu causes heart attacks, extremely skeptical all things considered, namely the gaslighting campaign recently pushed in regards to all these vaccine deaths in young people.

It's due to stress!
Children have always had heart attacks!
It's because you're eating worse than before suddenly!

It would seem all too convenient to assign blame to the disease what is caused by the vaccine. Plus I've been around covid sick or covid exposed people plenty and haven't been sick in any way for like 2 years.


the risk assessment seems fairly simple mathematically. a small small percent of young healthy people die from covid or have bad long term lung, heart, etc effects even after recovering. the vaccine likewise has a small percent of young people die, but the percent is smaller, in many cases by or at close to an order of magnitude.

then you must just wonder if you'll get covid, and if you do are you better off to be vaccinated to recover or be unvaccinated. and we will all get covid, i dont think in 10 years the planet will have many people who havent gotten it. its the main reason im vaccinated, not to specifically prevent covid contraction, but to lessen symptoms when i contract it again.
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Dec 7 2021 09:37am
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We had the data on the effects of Covid before the vaccines even existed dude.


They were telling the public that covid causes heart attacks 2 years ago? Okay then 👌

And also do you understand the concept of trust? A lot of people don't trust a single word from these people. They operate with a general contempt for me and a disregard for my concerns (me as in people like me) and their solutions are heavy handed and largely influenced by the pursuit of corporate profits at the expense of the American people, something leftists used to care about.
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Dec 7 2021 09:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 7 2021 10:34am)
the risk assessment seems fairly simple mathematically. a small small percent of young healthy people die from covid or have bad long term lung, heart, etc effects even after recovering. the vaccine likewise has a small percent of young people die, but the percent is smaller, in many cases by or at close to an order of magnitude.

then you must just wonder if you'll get covid, and if you do are you better off to be vaccinated to recover or be unvaccinated. and we will all get covid, i dont think in 10 years the planet will have many people who havent gotten it. its the main reason im vaccinated, not to specifically prevent covid contraction, but to lessen symptoms when i contract it again.



Exactly this. Vaccine has risks albeit rare, Covid is worse across the board but if you’re careful you may not get it.

Also with omicron the vaccines may not even work. Early data shows that natural immunity doesn’t really work against omicron, and regardless of what the CDC says - natural immunity is better than the vaccine. It’s a response to the entire virus, not just the spike protein.
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Dec 7 2021 09:39am
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They were telling the public that covid causes heart attacks 2 years ago? Okay then 👌

And also do you understand the concept of trust? A lot of people don't trust a single word from these people. They operate with a general contempt for me and a disregard for my concerns (me as in people like me) and their solutions are heavy handed and largely influenced by the pursuit of corporate profits at the expense of the American people, something leftists used to care about.



I don’t trust anything from the USA or the cdc, go review studies from other countries. Someone’s making money off each vaccine dose obviously.
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Fucking exposed:

Illinois State Rep. Introduces Bill Requiring Unvaccinated Residents to Pay For Their Own COVID Care
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/illinois-state-rep-introduces-bill-requiring-unvaccinated-residents-to-pay-for-their-own-covid-care/2701518/


"Unsurprisingly, Illinois Republicans have pushed back against the measure"
"The bill, if it were to pass, would not take effect until Jan. 2023, and would almost certainly face legal challenges"

Rofl.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 8 2021 11:41pm)
Fucking exposed:

Illinois State Rep. Introduces Bill Requiring Unvaccinated Residents to Pay For Their Own COVID Care
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/illinois-state-rep-introduces-bill-requiring-unvaccinated-residents-to-pay-for-their-own-covid-care/2701518/


"Unsurprisingly, Illinois Republicans have pushed back against the measure"
"The bill, if it were to pass, would not take effect until Jan. 2023, and would almost certainly face legal challenges"

Rofl.


illinois is a sinkhole state
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