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Apr 17 2019 12:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 17 2019 02:15pm)
wire tapping is just one kind of surveillance and/or spying.

you just made a 2 part venn diagram into a 4 part venn diagram for? reasons?




Either the Obama administration was illegally tapping Trump tower or they were doing it legally. Nice and cut and dry.


/e I'm a big fan of If > then > else statements. Phuck Venn diagrams.

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Apr 17 2019 12:42pm
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Either the Obama administration was illegally tapping Trump tower or they were doing it legally. Nice and cut and dry.


/e I'm a big fan of If > then > else statements. Phuck Venn diagrams.


Either the Obama administration was illegally tapping Trump tower or they were doing it legally. Nice and cut and dry.

Either the Obama administration was illegally spying on Trump tower or they were doing it legally. Nice and cut and dry.

Either the Obama administration was illegally surveilling Trump tower or they were doing it legally. Nice and cut and dry.

the difference between these is semantic, not cut and dry.
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Apr 17 2019 07:50pm
Washington, D.C. – Today, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Adam B. Schiff, Committee on Oversight and Reform Chairman Elijah E. Cummings, Committee on Financial Services Chairwoman Maxine Waters, and Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Eliot L. Engel issued the following joint statement calling for Attorney General William Barr to cancel a press conference on Special Counsel Mueller’s report scheduled to take place before Congress is set to the receive the report

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And just in time to make them see, I found this video parody....




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Apr 18 2019 05:47am


Release of long-awaited Mueller report on Russia a watershed moment for Trump

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/release-of-long-awaited-mueller-report-on-russia-a-watershed-moment-for-trump-idUSKCN1RU0DN



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Barr said he would hold a news conference at 9:30 a.m. (1330 GMT) on Thursday to discuss the report, along with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller as special counsel in May 2017.

Copies of the report will be delivered to Capitol Hill more than an hour later, between 11 a.m. and noon (1500-1600 GMT), a senior Justice Department official said. The delay in seeing the report sparked Democratic complaints that Barr, a Trump appointee, wanted to shape the public’s views during his news conference before others had a chance to draw their own conclusions.

Early on Thursday, top congressional Democrats called on Mueller to testify publicly in Congress about his investigation, criticizing Barr’s rollout of the report.

“We believe the only way to begin restoring public trust in the handling of the Special Counsel’s investigation is for Special Counsel Mueller himself to provide public testimony in the House and Senate as soon as possible,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement.
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Apr 18 2019 06:52am
Disappointing that Barr isn't going to have any members of Mueller's team there. This is a moment where he could demonstrate he is an institutionalist.... but he's showing himself to be more of a political actor.

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Disappointing that Barr isn't going to have any members of Mueller's team there. This is a moment where he could demonstrate he is an institutionalist.... but he's showing himself to be more of a political actor.


Sounds like you're looking for excuses to doubt Barr. He has toed exactly to the professional line so far and done everything by the book, even moreso than Robert Mueller who has had a few leaks, a few awkward court moments and that aberration where he went public to contradict Buzzfeed. Barr has the benefit of only a short time in his post with a lot less media frenzy around him, so that doesn't speak to him being personally more or less professional. But before you go accusing him of being political for "not having Mueller's team there", ask yourself whether that would actually be appropriate and professional under DoJ precedent and regulations. Its quite probable that having the special counsel's team conducting a press conference would explicitly violate the post-Starr rules.
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Apr 18 2019 07:04am
https://www.justice.gov/live

we're going live in 25 minutes
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Sounds like you're looking for excuses to doubt Barr. He has toed exactly to the professional line so far and done everything by the book, even moreso than Robert Mueller who has had a few leaks, a few awkward court moments and that aberration where he went public to contradict Buzzfeed. Barr has the benefit of only a short time in his post with a lot less media frenzy around him, so that doesn't speak to him being personally more or less professional. But before you go accusing him of being political for "not having Mueller's team there", ask yourself whether that would actually be appropriate and professional under DoJ precedent and regulations. Its quite probable that having the special counsel's team conducting a press conference would explicitly violate the post-Starr rules.


:rolleyes:

I'm hoping a reporter will ask him why no Mueller team members are there. Typically for DOJ announcements you have members of the prosecutorial team there.

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So a PSA for Trump cultists:

When we see claims in the Mueller report that have been previously reported, you don't get to say "we already knew that", because you shrieked fake news and anonymous sources after every major scoop. Yes, those of us who trust good journalists already knew that. You didn't.
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Apr 18 2019 07:09am
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Apr 2019 08:57)
Sounds like you're looking for excuses to doubt Barr. He has toed exactly to the professional line so far and done everything by the book, even moreso than Robert Mueller who has had a few leaks, a few awkward court moments and that aberration where he went public to contradict Buzzfeed. Barr has the benefit of only a short time in his post with a lot less media frenzy around him, so that doesn't speak to him being personally more or less professional. But before you go accusing him of being political for "not having Mueller's team there", ask yourself whether that would actually be appropriate and professional under DoJ precedent and regulations. Its quite probable that having the special counsel's team conducting a press conference would explicitly violate the post-Starr rules.

unless the result is what he wants icepeon will just #resist it
this is consistent with privileged lefty behavior since November 2016
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