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Dec 2 2017 09:22pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 2 2017 09:49pm)
... and NO ONE can attack him.


Source?

INB4 not perfect source.
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Dec 2 2017 11:59pm


NSA employee pleads guilty after stolen classified data landed in Russian hands

http://www.zdnet.com/article/former-nsa-staffer-pleads-guilty-after-classified-data-theft/



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A former National Security Agency hacker has admitted to illegally taking highly classified information from the agency's headquarters, which was later stolen by Russian hackers.



Not Trump related, but interesting, none the less.
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Deutsche Bank receives subpoena from Mueller on Trump accounts: source

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-receives-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN



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Deutsche Bank, which has loaned the Trump organization millions of dollars for real estate ventures, said it would not comment on any of its clients.

Deutsche Bank rejected demands in June by U.S. House Democrats to provide details of Trump’s finances, citing privacy laws.




Good for.... Deutsche Bank.
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Dec 5 2017 05:45am
Yo Icemage, tell me what you think that Mueller subpoenaing Deutsche Bank speaks as to whether his motives are partisan or not
Is this him impartially probing for evidence of election collusion in the book-keeping somehow, or is he now on a fishing expedition?
A reasonable interpretation might be that Mueller is now using Flynn's cooperation to provide probable cause for seeking records of Kusher and/or Trump being involved in money laundering / tax evasion that had nothing to do with the election. It would certainly sit well with the narrative of "Flynn testifies to things everyone has already known since day 1". It would also be Ken Starr 2.0 and lead to a mueller-dismissal showdown
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Yo Icemage, tell me what you think that Mueller subpoenaing Deutsche Bank speaks as to whether his motives are partisan or not
Is this him impartially probing for evidence of election collusion in the book-keeping somehow, or is he now on a fishing expedition?
A reasonable interpretation might be that Mueller is now using Flynn's cooperation to provide probable cause for seeking records of Kusher and/or Trump being involved in money laundering / tax evasion that had nothing to do with the election. It would certainly sit well with the narrative of "Flynn testifies to things everyone has already known since day 1". It would also be Ken Starr 2.0 and lead to a mueller-dismissal showdown


Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller gave him such a broad mandate that I don't think it's inappropriate. Mueller isn't a partisan, everybody knows that.
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"Put a police car on anyone's tail for 500 miles and they're going to get a ticket"
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Lol pretty much. The Reeee crowd doesn’t even care that this is moving way beyond the Russia collusion scope to them it’s all about ends justifying the means.
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Lol pretty much. The Reeee crowd doesn’t even care that this is moving way beyond the Russia collusion scope to them it’s all about ends justifying the means.


The scope of the investigation was laid out in the Rosenstein letter appointing a special counsel.

If Mueller was only mandated to look strictly into collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Manafort wouldn't be under house arrest right now.

But the cultist tears are delicious.

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The scope of the investigation was laid out in the Rosenstein letter appointing a special counsel.

If Mueller was only mandated to look strictly into collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Manafort wouldn't be under house arrest right now.

But the cultist tears are delicious.

https://m.popkey.co/53f79a/l3oQl_s-200x150.gif


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Dec 5 2017 08:57am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 5 2017 08:24am)
Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller gave him such a broad mandate that I don't think it's inappropriate. Mueller isn't a partisan, everybody knows that.


A broad mandate to go on a fishing expedition into Trump's personal finances?
Lets not be disingenuous here, Mueller was appointed to investigate russian interference in the 2016 election, it says so right on the tin, and it was borne of democrats screaming about supposed collusion between trump and russian interference in the 2016 election. If he goes off searching for stained blue dresses, that's when a supposedly non-partisan investigation is exposed as a fishing trip aimed at attacking Trump on an unrelated tangent instead of pursuing his stated purpose.

Mueller is thoroughly an establishment FBI creature. And given the history of the FBI these past couple years, its hard to maintain that there is no political animus towards Trump or objectivity- those buttery emails, the Comey intervention, the leaks, the wiretapping, the Rosatom scandal, strzok and page, etc etc, Mueller is from a politically compromised organization as bad as the Hoover days or worse. How much of that splashed onto him? Whether Mueller is a partisan or not is as of yet unknown, we have only repeated assurances of his credibility from a time when the FBI wasn't at war with an anti-establishment figure.

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The scope of the investigation was laid out in the Rosenstein letter appointing a special counsel.
If Mueller was only mandated to look strictly into collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Manafort wouldn't be under house arrest right now.


Using a special counsel to dig through someone's history in hopes of finding any crime to prosecute is exactly the kind of abuse of criminal justice that has Alan Dershowitz howling into the wind every day
As Beria said, "Show me the man and I will show you the crime". The scope of Mueller's investigation was the russian interference in the 2016 election. To go beyond that into any tortured loose tangent on a fishing expedition would remove any credibility

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