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May 7 2022 12:19pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 7 2022 09:14pm)
You normally don't have a problem with far-right groups or ideology.


what "far-right" groups are those? the catholic church or ben shapiro? :rofl:

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 7 2022 09:14pm)
The only reason you keep spamming these collages about Ukraine's far-right is that you're shilling for Russia and buying into their propaganda.


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based on these articles from "enlightened western media", Putin's claims of "Ukraine nazism" are true - not propaganda, and entire "anti-nazi" Left-wing of the world now supports them edit: (except for few leftists currently under attacked by the corporate-left NPC's for this, like Jimmy Dore etc.)



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Quote (HeLiCaL @ 7 May 2022 20:19)
based on these articles from "enlightened western media", Putin's claims of "Ukraine nazism" are true

No, they are not. Why? Because Putin doesn't just claim that there are "some nazi groups" in Ukraine. He claims that nazis/fascists dominate the Ukrainian leadership, are constantly attacking ethnic Russians and are plotting to genocide them.

The pretext for Russia's "special military operation" is that Russia has to step in to stop the "Ukrainian fascists" and "denazify" the country. In practice, this "denazification" means Russia shelling hospitals and residential areas, stealing grain and tractors and engaging in mass rapes and executions.
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May 7 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 7 2022 09:27pm)
No, they are not. Why? Because Putin doesn't just claim that there are "some nazi groups" in Ukraine. He claims that nazis/fascists dominate the Ukrainian leadership, are constantly attacking ethnic Russians and are plotting to genocide them.


did the Ukraine president ever react to the articles above by condemning the groups outlined in them?
were any purges conducted from the ranks of the millitary for having those ties?

the leadership overseeing social media sure seems bent on upholding the accusations against them through their unapologetic dehumanising rhetoric:
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1508492200748929027

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The pretext for Russia's "special military operation" is that Russia has to step in to stop the "Ukrainian fascists" and "denazify" the country. In practice, this "denazification" means Russia shelling hospitals and residential areas, stealing grain and tractors and engaging in mass rapes and executions.


looking forward to investigation results by impartial United Nations & statistics for each side
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ 7 May 2022 20:39)
did the Ukraine president ever react to the articles above by condemning the groups outlined in them?
were any purges conducted from the ranks of the millitary for having those ties?

Did Putin ever react or condemn the nazis and swastika-wearers among the Wagner group?

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the leadership overseeing social media sure seems bent on upholding the accusations against them through their unapologetic dehumanising rhetoric:
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1508492200748929027

That's over the top, but it's also something that came out after the start of the war. During wartime, rhetoric tends to become crass and dehumanizing, that's just the nature of war.



Do you have any idea what's on Russian state TV these days? They're openly talking about "denazifying" all of Europe, not just Ukraine. They're talking about putting all Ukrainians into reeducation camps once they've conquered the country. They're gloating about how few seconds nukes from Kaliningrad would need to reach Berlin, Paris and London. They're even playing through how many millions they could kill if they detonated nukes off the coast of Britain to trigger a tsunami. Any dissidents (in Russia) are called vermin and traitors that shall be culled. Dmitry Medvedev, former Russian president and PM and a close Putin ally, has called the Ukrainian leadership "freaks" and "monstrosities" and called for the "de-Ukrainification" of Ukraine.

The rhetoric on display in Russia these days is completely beyond the pale, it's just not receiving a lot of attention in Western media because of the language barrier and because it's just so comically over the top that it's hard to take this utter garbage serious. In any case, the dehumanizing language and radical rhetoric is far more extreme on the Russian than the Ukrainian side.



edit: just one example:
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1519991183665213443


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 7 2022 09:06pm)
Did Putin ever react or condemn the nazis and swastika-wearer among the Wagner group?


That's over the top, but it's also something that came out after the start of the war. During wartime, rhetoric tends to become crass and dehumanizing, that's just the nature of war.



Do you have any idea what's on Russian state TV these days? They're openly talking about "denazifying" all of Europe, not just Ukraine. They're talking about putting all Ukrainians into reeducation camps once they've conquered the country. They're gloating about how few seconds nukes from Kaliningrad would need to reach Berlin, Paris and London. They're even playing through how many millions they could kill if they detonated nukes off the coast of Britain to trigger a tsunami. Any dissidents (in Russia) are called vermin and traitors that shall be culled. Dmitry Medvedev, former Russian president and PM and a close Putin ally, has called the Ukrainian leadership "freaks" and "monstrosities" and called for the "de-Ukrainification" of Ukraine.

The rhetoric on display in Russia these days is completely beyond the pale, it's just not receiving a lot of attention in Western media because of the language barrier and because it's just so comically over the top that it's hard to take this utter garbage serious. In any case, the dehumanizing language and radical rhetoric is far more extreme on the Russian than the Ukrainian side.



edit: just one example:
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1519991183665213443
https://i.imgur.com/ryfr0Re.png


looks like i have to make my exit even quicker than intended ^_^
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 May 2022 22:06)
Did Putin ever react or condemn the nazis and swastika-wearer among the Wagner group?


That's over the top, but it's also something that came out after the start of the war. During wartime, rhetoric tends to become crass and dehumanizing, that's just the nature of war.



Do you have any idea what's on Russian state TV these days? They're openly talking about "denazifying" all of Europe, not just Ukraine. They're talking about putting all Ukrainians into reeducation camps once they've conquered the country. They're gloating about how few seconds nukes from Kaliningrad would need to reach Berlin, Paris and London. They're even playing through how many millions they could kill if they detonated nukes off the coast of Britain to trigger a tsunami. Any dissidents (in Russia) are called vermin and traitors that shall be culled. Dmitry Medvedev, former Russian president and PM and a close Putin ally, has called the Ukrainian leadership "freaks" and "monstrosities" and called for the "de-Ukrainification" of Ukraine.

The rhetoric on display in Russia these days is completely beyond the pale, it's just not receiving a lot of attention in Western media because of the language barrier and because it's just so comically over the top that it's hard to take this utter garbage serious. In any case, the dehumanizing language and radical rhetoric is far more extreme on the Russian than the Ukrainian side.



edit: just one example:
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1519991183665213443
https://i.imgur.com/ryfr0Re.png


Talk shows are not sources of information. Present agenda is Russo-Ukrainian conflict and they are doing their best to entertain plebians. Same goes for long forgotten politicians and their cheap PR. Well, I better not show you where the lemonade is made Don't ever try Ukrainian shows, they are even more freaky so Russian TV channels were buying rights to broadcast it. "Pregnant at 16", for example.
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May 7 2022 01:56pm
this is a bit worrying

The card says "Единая Россия": "Unified Russia".

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 7 2022 10:06pm)
Did Putin ever react or condemn the nazis and swastika-wearers among the Wagner group?


so Zelensky the current idol of the "enlightened west" turns out to be equivalent to Putin in this regard?

absolutely agree, thank you



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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 7 May 2022 22:56)
this is a bit worrying

The card says "Единая Россия": "Unified Russia".

https://i.imgur.com/gqHjX4o.jpeg


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Russia

Seems like his leg claimed independence

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