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Dec 1 2021 01:17pm
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 03:07pm)
Only a fool would accept any information from a single source.
I have been at this for over 20 years. Yes, I'm old. No, I'm not a boomer.



I’m asking what you base your conclusions on
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Dec 1 2021 01:21pm
Quote (SharpNips @ Dec 1 2021 01:17pm)
I’m asking what you base your conclusions on


Here are some things you will need to know.
-sacred geometry
-the mystery schools
-ancient religions
-human origins
-ancient peoples migrations
-royal bloodlines
-fractional-reserve banking
-fiat currency
-worlds pyramids

and much more. What I came up with off the top of my head.

This post was edited by sirthom on Dec 1 2021 01:23pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2021 11:20am)
I still don't get why governments aren't offering antivaxxers a legal waiver in which they forgo ICU treatment for covid in return for being unbothered by these mandates.
Let the antivaxxers put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

This approach would solve all our problems:

- hospitals would no longer be overwhelmed as long as the government doesn't fuck up the boosters
- nobody would be forced to get vaccinated against their will
- the vaccinated would no longer have to suffer from restrictions which are necessary to protect those who don't want to protect themselves
- the undignified pressure campaign and blame game against the unvaccinated could end. conversely, if shit hits the fan again anyway, no one can blame the unvaccinated; in that case, politics and the vaccine manufacturers would have to own the failure. from the pov of someone who doesn't believe in the effectiveness of the vaccines, this approach would expose the other side. win-win.


because its immoral bullshit, there is no reason whatsoever for a normal person to give away their right to receive treatment

we both know that german hospitals have never been overwhelmed with 0% people vaxxed, they wont be overwhelmed with 75+% vaxxed, the shortage we have is a political failure unrelated to covid

this pandemic is so bad that we closed hospitals :santa:

and i have never seen one unvaxxed person wanting protection from anyone, there is no need, mandate or necessity to "protect those who dont want to protect themselves", thats a lauterbach style argument

we are seeing countries with over 90% vax rate like ireland closing down again or gibraltar with literally 100% so the narrative has been exposed already

lets be real, the only reason countries like germany are discussing new measures is that they cant let this wave wind down by itself without a lockdown hammer

otherwise all their terrible decisions from the past would be exposed once and for all
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Dec 1 2021 01:36pm
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 02:21pm)
Here are some things you will need to know.
-sacred geometry
-the mystery schools
-ancient religions
-human origins
-ancient peoples migrations
-royal bloodlines
-fractional-reserve banking
-fiat currency
-worlds pyramids

and much more. What I came up with off the top of my head.


So just common conspiracy theories that've been mashed together to form your worldview?

You can have a healthy distrust of authority without going the whole "I read my horoscope and don't believe in germ germs exist" route.
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Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 01:36pm)
So just common conspiracy theories that've been mashed together to form your worldview?

You can have a healthy distrust of authority without going the whole "I read my horoscope and don't believe in germ germs exist" route.


This is a gatekeeper term, created solely for the purpose of keeping you from looking at information.
all I am saying is go look for yourself.

It is much easier to fool someone, than it is to convince them they have been fooled.

edit: If what I say is true it will stand on it's own merit.
They know this and is why they seek to gatekeep it.

Also, if what I say is so easily refuted. Why work so hard to hide it?

This post was edited by sirthom on Dec 1 2021 01:48pm
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Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 11:42am)
It is much easier to fool someone, than it is to convince them they have been fooled.


/r/selfawarewolves
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Quote (Sioux @ Dec 1 2021 01:42pm)
/r/selfawarewolves


read my edit plz
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Dec 1 2021 01:50pm
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 02:42pm)
This is a gatekeeper term, created solely for the purpose of keeping you from looking at information.
all I am saying is go look for yourself.

It is much easier to fool someone, than it is to convince them they have been fooled.


CSB. I've been reading conspiracies for decades and consider myself pretty well informed on them. People who accept theories based on a propensity to be a contrarian make the best rubes. One day you might find that out.

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Also, if what I say is so easily refuted. Why work so hard to hide it?


Because rubes believe it and do bad things.

This post was edited by toyake on Dec 1 2021 01:51pm
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CSB. I've been reading conspiracies for decades and consider myself pretty well informed on them. People who accept theories based on a propensity to be a contrarian make the best rubes. One day you might find that out.



Because rubes believe it and do bad things.


As you wish.
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Dec 1 2021 02:07pm
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 11:42am)
This is a gatekeeper term, created solely for the purpose of keeping you from looking at information.
all I am saying is go look for yourself.

It is much easier to fool someone, than it is to convince them they have been fooled.

edit: If what I say is true it will stand on it's own merit.
They know this and is why they seek to gatekeep it.

Also, if what I say is so easily refuted. Why work so hard to hide it?


Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 11:36am)
So just common conspiracy theories that've been mashed together to form your worldview?

You can have a healthy distrust of authority without going the whole "I read my horoscope and don't believe in germ germs exist" route.



It's a term fabricated by power structures to protect their interests (according to sociologists), a behavior under elite theory or conflict theory.
The observable behavior & idea that an elite power structure will persecute info & coining it "conspiracy theory" because it has the propensity to expose or disrupt their control is well established in sociology.

Anyone who goes around calling something a conspiracy theory is spell bound/paid if not low iq.
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