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Dec 1 2021 11:38am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Dec 1 2021 12:34pm)
well, they're still talking on tv how we all gotta get vaccinated if we wanna go "back to normal", disregarding fully vaccinated still catching, spreading and dying.
yeah i know we're not getting "back to normal" no matter what the vax rate is, but hey, lets still vaccinate 5 year olds.

vaccine is safe yeah, but why would i need it against a virus with 99.99% survavability as a healthy fit young person?
i dont mind vaccines for old and weak, i actually encouraged my grandparents to get it. but i don't need it.
as peter attia said, doctor that's fully vaccinated btw, the risk and benefit ratio for young healthy people leans more towards the risk. especially if we're talking about kids, then risk increases by a lot with benefit being close to zero.


Meanwhile unvaccinated people are dying at 11X the rate of vaccinated people, so weird right?

Vaccine reduces the risks of long covid too, why would you want to set up generations of people with long term health problems?
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Dec 1 2021 11:39am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 12:36pm)
You are being manipulated and lied to.
Do any kind of digging and red flags appear everywhere.
Think for yourself, question authority.


LPT: You can have a healthy distrust of authority and still value expertise.
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Dec 1 2021 11:42am
Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 07:39pm)
LPT: You can have a healthy distrust of authority and still value expertise.


Well, maybe some of us can.
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Dec 1 2021 11:42am
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Meanwhile unvaccinated people are dying at 11X the rate of vaccinated people, so weird right?

Vaccine reduces the risks of long covid too, why would you want to set up generations of people with long term health problems?


long term effects are unknown , and they cannot possibly be known year after vaccine was made. if anything, you're contradicting yourself as we have absolutely zero data on vaccines effects in long period.
confirmed by sanjay gupta, peter attia, and anyone that has a medical degree and half a brain.
hot damn pal you gotta lay off your tv remote control and actually listen to proper non biased data by people who do not benefit by selling u shit.
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Dec 1 2021 11:47am
Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 11:39am)
LPT: You can have a healthy distrust of authority and still value expertise.


You are getting media selected experts. Who do and say exactly what they are payed to.

Did you know when a lawyer calls an expert to the stand they never go against the point the lawyer is making.
Why? Because they have been prescreened and selected.

Same thing here.
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Dec 1 2021 11:48am
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long term effects are unknown , and they cannot possibly be known year after vaccine was made. if anything, you're contradicting yourself as we have absolutely zero data on vaccines effects in long period.
confirmed by sanjay gupta, peter attia, and anyone that has a medical degree and half a brain.
hot damn pal you gotta lay off your tv remote control and actually listen to proper non biased data by people who do not benefit by selling u shit.


So you would agree with the professionals when they say that the risks from covid are more severe than those of the vaccine? Right?

You know your memes are made by boomers for boomers, because who else watches TV anymore?
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Dec 1 2021 11:52am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 12:47pm)
You are getting media selected experts. Who do and say exactly what they are payed to.

Did you know when a lawyer calls an expert to the stand they never go against the point the lawyer is making.
Why? Because they have been prescreened and selected.

Same thing here.


So where are all of the truth speakers? Seems like overwhelming majority of global medical professionals are saying that the vaccine is safe and effective. Unless you believe that they're lying through gritted teeth?
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Dec 1 2021 11:57am
Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 05:48pm)
So you would agree with the professionals when they say that the risks from covid are more severe than those of the vaccine? Right?

You know your memes are made by boomers for boomers, because who else watches TV anymore?


for elderly, covid is way more severe. which is exactly what i said when i mentioned that i encouraged my grandparents to get vaccinated. so you're basically asking me to confirm what i already said.
but as i see you're struggling with more than one thing, i'll repeat this too. risk vs benefit for young people is confirmed to lean more towards risk which means im not getting vaccinated as im healthy young and fit.
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So where are all of the truth speakers? Seems like overwhelming majority of global medical professionals are saying that the vaccine is safe and effective. Unless you believe that they're lying through gritted teeth?


medical expertise are barely showing up in media. things you're listening to are spoken by politicians. highly ranked doctors are showing on independent podcasts. i know seeing 30 seconds of news is easier than listening to 3h of podcast but hey, to each their own.
2 top WHO members resigned after Biden still decided to push boosters desite their claims on boosters not being tested enough, not proven to work, or lack of safety data being done on them.
but which media will put that on front page?

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Dec 1 2021 12:01pm
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Dec 1 2021 12:04pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Dec 1 2021 12:57pm)
for elderly, covid is way more severe. which is exactly what i said when i mentioned that i encouraged my grandparents to get vaccinated. so you're basically asking me to confirm what i already said.
but as i see you're struggling with more than one thing, i'll repeat this too. risk vs benefit for young people is confirmed to lean more towards risk which means im not getting vaccinated as im healthy young and fit.


medical expertise are barely showing up in media. things you're listening to are spoken by politicians. highly ranked doctors are showing on independent podcasts. i know seeing 30 seconds of news is easier than listening to 3h of podcast but hey, to each their own.
2 top WHO members resigned after Biden still decided to push boosters desite their claims on boosters not being tested enough, not proven to work, or lack of safety data being done on them.
but which media will put that on front page?


Meanwhile the majority of global medical professionals disagree with you and urge young people to get vaccinated.

How many people didn't resign? Do your podcasts talk about them or their views? Or do you prefer to stay in a bubble of confirmation bias?
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Dec 1 2021 12:17pm
Quote (toyake @ Dec 1 2021 11:52am)
So where are all of the truth speakers? Seems like overwhelming majority of global medical professionals are saying that the vaccine is safe and effective. Unless you believe that they're lying through gritted teeth?


Surely you are aware of all the mass bannings on various web sites. Facebook, twatter, youtube, etc.
If you can't win with fact, logic, and reason...then you ban.
Which they do.

edit: The ones that don't get banned; some are true believes, some lie, some will do or say whatever if the money is right.
Not only are they not banned, they are heavily promoted.
For this purpose the why is less important, so long as they tow the line.

This post was edited by sirthom on Dec 1 2021 12:25pm
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