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Dec 1 2021 04:20am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 1 Dec 2021 02:24)


I still don't get why governments aren't offering antivaxxers a legal waiver in which they forgo ICU treatment for covid in return for being unbothered by these mandates.
Let the antivaxxers put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

This approach would solve all our problems:

- hospitals would no longer be overwhelmed as long as the government doesn't fuck up the boosters
- nobody would be forced to get vaccinated against their will
- the vaccinated would no longer have to suffer from restrictions which are necessary to protect those who don't want to protect themselves
- the undignified pressure campaign and blame game against the unvaccinated could end. conversely, if shit hits the fan again anyway, no one can blame the unvaccinated; in that case, politics and the vaccine manufacturers would have to own the failure. from the pov of someone who doesn't believe in the effectiveness of the vaccines, this approach would expose the other side. win-win.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 1 2021 04:22am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2021 04:20am)
I still don't get why governments aren't offering antivaxxers a legal waiver in which they forgo ICU treatment for covid in return for being unbothered by these mandates.
Let the antivaxxers put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

This approach would solve all our problems:

- hospitals would no longer be overwhelmed as long as the government doesn't fuck up the boosters
- nobody would be forced to get vaccinated against their will
- the vaccinated would no longer have to suffer from restrictions which are necessary to protect those who don't want to protect themselves
- the undignified pressure campaign and blame game against the unvaccinated could end. conversely, if shit hits the fan again anyway, no one can blame the unvaccinated; in that case, politics and the vaccine manufacturers would have to own the failure. from the pov of someone who doesn't believe in the effectiveness of the vaccines, this approach would expose the other side. win-win.


It is a means to an end.
This isn't about a pandemic or a vaccine and never was.
It is about changing rights to privileges, so what was once protected can now be taken away.
The "pandemic" will continue until it is no longer convenient to do so.

I don't see how refusing medical treatment to the unvax'd is going to change this.
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Brothers 20 year old gf got the pfizer vaccine 7 days ago (thanks mandates) and has been having multiple blackouts a day/ paralysis in arms for 5 days. After MRI and EEG they Told her its seizures and put her on Keppra.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2021 10:20am)
I still don't get why governments aren't offering antivaxxers a legal waiver in which they forgo ICU treatment for covid in return for being unbothered by these mandates.
Let the antivaxxers put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

This approach would solve all our problems:

- hospitals would no longer be overwhelmed as long as the government doesn't fuck up the boosters
- nobody would be forced to get vaccinated against their will
- the vaccinated would no longer have to suffer from restrictions which are necessary to protect those who don't want to protect themselves
- the undignified pressure campaign and blame game against the unvaccinated could end. conversely, if shit hits the fan again anyway, no one can blame the unvaccinated; in that case, politics and the vaccine manufacturers would have to own the failure. from the pov of someone who doesn't believe in the effectiveness of the vaccines, this approach would expose the other side. win-win.


In exchange for vaxers being denied of medical help after vaccine side effect consequences? I mean you choose the vaccine, now be a good boy and stay home instead filling hospital beds by making such a decision
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Quote (KRR @ Dec 1 2021 11:20am)
Brothers 20 year old gf got the pfizer vaccine 7 days ago (thanks mandates) and has been having multiple blackouts a day/ paralysis in arms for 5 days. After MRI and EEG they Told her its seizures and put her on Keppra.


One of many, sadly. And iirc ur vaxed so not like ur antivaxer spreading bs which u might be accused of easily in this topic filled with obese afraid guys.


Florian Dagoury: World Record Holder In Static Breath-Hold Freediving Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine, Possible End Of Career.

His score went from 10min30sec to around 7 min mark.
Still a lot for us normal folks, but thats massive impact on lungs. Doctor told him its normal after vaccine and that it should pass after a week. 3 months later, no sight of any improvement.






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. Just want to share my annoying experience after vaccination and perhaps have some testimonials and similar stories around Freedivers. Did you get better?

After my 2nd dose I noticed that my heart rate was way higher than normal and my breath hold capacities went down significantly. During sleep, I’m at 65-70bpm instead of 37-45bpm. During the day I’m now always over 100bpm instead of 65bpm, even when I sit down and relax. I once even reached 177bpm while having dinner with friends !!!! 10 days after my 2nd jab, I went to see a cardiologist and he told me it’s a common side effect of Pfizer vaccin, nothing to worry about, just rest it will pass. 40days after 2nd jab, I had no progress so I went to see another cardiologist and got diagnosed with Myocarditis, Pericarditis and Trivial Mitral regurgitation! Which is basically an inflammation of the heart muscles caused by the immune system and some tiny leaks of blood from the valves that no longer close properly. I’m now struggling to reach 8min breath hold, 150m dyn and I even have a strong urge to breathe doing 40m dives. 30% decrease on my diving performance roughly.


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In exchange for vaxers being denied of medical help after vaccine side effect consequences? I mean you choose the vaccine, now be a good boy and stay home instead filling hospital beds by making such a decision


Hospitals aren't swamped because of thousands of people with vaccine side effects, they're being swamped because of covid patients, the majority of them unvaccinated.
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Quote (sirthom @ Dec 1 2021 02:33am)
It is a means to an end.
This isn't about a pandemic or a vaccine and never was.
It is about changing rights to privileges, so what was once protected can now be taken away.
The "pandemic" will continue until it is no longer convenient to do so.

I don't see how refusing medical treatment to the unvax'd is going to change this.


glad to se SA finally on board with this liberal hoax.
Bill must of finally paid them enough
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 1 2021 07:46am)
Hospitals aren't swamped because of thousands of people with vaccine side effects, they're being swamped because of covid patients, the majority of them unvaccinated.



. hospitals are extremely short staffed .so when the news says they are full they actually have like half the hospital beds closed off /blocked because no staff. So not technically “full” they’re just not accepting patients.
Largest hospital in my state has 8 covid icu patients. 60 non covid icu patients

Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Dec 1 2021 07:21am)
One of many, sadly. And iirc ur vaxed so not like ur antivaxer spreading bs which u might be accused of easily in this topic filled with obese afraid guys.


Florian Dagoury: World Record Holder In Static Breath-Hold Freediving Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine, Possible End Of Career.

His score went from 10min30sec to around 7 min mark.
Still a lot for us normal folks, but thats massive impact on lungs. Doctor told him its normal after vaccine and that it should pass after a week. 3 months later, no sight of any improvement.






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Yes i’m vaxxed , pfizer was recommended to me by pharmacist friend due to the more in depth research, but he is now skeptical of it and recommends moderna , to family/friends at least.

Definitely noticed a big increase in myocarditis, strokes, dvt’s, MI, PE this year in the hospital. I pick up occasional shifts in ICU if i’m bored , they also pay 200$/hr lol
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Quote (KRR @ Dec 1 2021 02:44pm)
. hospitals are extremely short staffed .so when the news says they are full they actually have like half the hospital beds closed off /blocked because no staff. So not technically “full” they’re just not accepting patients.
Largest hospital in my state has 8 covid icu patients. 60 non covid icu patients



Yes i’m vaxxed , pfizer was recommended to me by pharmacist friend due to the more in depth research, but he is now skeptical of it and recommends moderna , to family/friends at least.

Definitely noticed a big increase in myocarditis, strokes, dvt’s, MI, PE this year in the hospital. I pick up occasional shifts in ICU if i’m bored , they also pay 200$/hr lol


Remember hospitals being full due to ivermectin overdoses caused by rogan? Apparently in 4 billion ivermectin doses given to people, there was 17 side effects. But if you possibly find a way to treat covid that's not vaccinations, fake news fly out like crazy. So whenever i hear hospitals being full, im sceptic af considering few friends working in German and irish hospitals said 2020 and 2021 are easiest years in their medicinal careers.


Yeah myocarditis is a big one amongst fully vaccinated sadly, so now we have an omicron (anagram Moronic) varriant that has myocarditis as a symptom. Mad coincidences. As mad as unrelated cases of soccer players dropping like flies by myocarditis. Media will never admit that there's even a slight chance its caused by god given vaccines
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Dec 1 2021 10:46am)
Remember hospitals being full due to ivermectin overdoses caused by rogan? Apparently in 4 billion ivermectin doses given to people, there was 17 side effects. But if you possibly find a way to treat covid that's not vaccinations, fake news fly out like crazy. So whenever i hear hospitals being full, im sceptic af considering few friends working in German and irish hospitals said 2020 and 2021 are easiest years in their medicinal careers.


Yeah myocarditis is a big one amongst fully vaccinated sadly, so now we have an omicron (anagram Moronic) varriant that has myocarditis as a symptom. Mad coincidences. As mad as unrelated cases of soccer players dropping like flies by myocarditis. Media will never admit that there's even a slight chance its caused by god given vaccines


You got some outdated memes my dude.
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