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Quote (ferdia @ 5 May 2022 23:01)
its fine i have an hour :)

I think this is from 1988, also the first thingi did was google "is singapore a 3rd world country"


yes but during then foreign press media can still be banned or controlled.
But we are now in a world that such firewall is not available, due to VPN etc etc.

We are 1000% and in my own words more vulnerable to propaganda or should i say Effective Geo political marketing by foreign actors and belligerents than ever.
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May 5 2022 09:29am
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And in regards to Freedom of Press , you are welcomed to watch this video if you are free.


Why Chinese are obsesse by money ?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 5 May 2022 23:29)
Why Chinese are obsesse by money ?


You mean profits
Do you want my personal take or do you want a government take on this in general, from a Chinese point of view.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 5 May 2022 15:33)
You mean profits
Do you want my personal take or do you want a government take on this in general, from a Chinese point of view.


Culturally: I think it's because they love math, i noticed they also very addicted to gamble games, but i have a limited experience: only few people of foreign region (ie: Cambodge, Laos, VietNam) who told me the same.
But I am not sure, maybe you could give me a tip, and yes, "profit" if you want.
Btw is there any link with "survival" ?
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 5 2022 03:57pm)
That is without a doubt, USA have already prepared for this since the Clinton Administration.
The Media and fourth estate ability to turn their citizen against one another i.e Republicans and Democrats
And their ability to turn their citizens to their purported common global " enemy " is bar none.

With the advancement of technology and social media this has become a more than viable warfare. I would say conventional and nuclear weapons are nothing compared to this.
Because it has the ability to turn the entire world against you.

Please also note that most of the media and tech comes from the states.
Google, Facebook, instagram , Twitter... these are American owned platforms which covers or is being used by at least and conservatively speaking 70% of the world.

And in regards to Freedom of Press , you are welcomed to watch this video if you are free.




Hey brother please watch this video on press freedom from my ex prime minister point of view. it will be quite a good watch.

Here is the long version with him facing off the entire American press.
I will post a short version and it's essences in the next post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVlbyN-COTE


That was a very insightful video and is more relevant today then ever. thank you for providing it.
i will want to do a bit more reading on the solomon islands, so let me do that before making that topic for you / us XD

i might pm you for how i present the question btw. noting there are nuances.

"will US invade" "should US invade" etc etc. loads of ways of framing it.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 5 May 2022 23:38)
Culturally: I think it's because they love math, i noticed they also very addicted to gamble games, but i have a limited experience: only few people of foreign region (ie: Cambodge, Laos, VietNam) who told me the same.
But I am not sure, maybe you could give me a tip, and yes, "profit" if you want.
Btw is there any link with "survival" ?


I will divide this into parts and why we are so obsessed with Profits.
The first Part will be personal and second part will be a government point of view.

1. Family

1a Parents

We didn't come from a well off family because the Communist took away our lands and properties.
My mum was a Malaysian Chinese from Penang ( Malaysia ) , my grandmother from my mum's side is the 3rd wife.
My dad escaped before the cultural revolution in China to Hong Kong, he has 9 siblings brothers and sister and he is the youngest.
My dad and mum toil 12 hours a day when we were younger to earn money to provide me and my younger brother so that we can have decent food , decent education and the ability to go to overseas universities in the West with relatively ease and comfort.
So I want to earn a lot of money so I can give them back the comforts that they deserve.
This is called Fillial Piety.

1b My wife / Girlfriend

If my wife have been with me when I am still going through a rough patch while building my business or earning my dues and stick to me thick and thin. Gave me children ( this is optional )
I want to earn a lot of money, so I can appreciate her and buy things for her that will give her certain amount of security i.e A Few Apartments or shops in her name, Hermes Birkin , Kelly bags, Chanel etc etc to appreciate for the time she spent with me and supported me through good and bad times.
And I want to give her the best that I can and you need money for those.
This is called Appreciating your other half

1c Children

Read 1a, I want to provide for my kids like the way my parents provided for me, every generation will get better and better, My parents sent me to Australia to study in University , perhaps if I make enough and I am able to provide them with even better education, I can sent them to very decent private schools in US or UK or Switzerland or France if I am really rich which gives them a head start in life. And when they have the ability to enter universities like Ivy Leagues or Oxbridge, they dont have to worry about getting a loan from the bank to pay for their education and a place to stay while studying.
This is call Preparing your next generation
You need Money for this

1d Helping people who are less fortunate

When society treats you well and you make it in life , return some to them, help the needy and the unfortunate through your own means.
It can be donations to schools, hospitals etc etc etc.
This is called Charity
You need money for this


2. Government

If a group of people decided to make Profit as a dirty word because the government is obsessed with it and while I am saying this I meant predominantly sino centric governments then it might ruin the country.
How are you going to provide Infrastructure, defense, healthcare, education, housing etc etc to your population and people in a manner where they can afford and subsidized the needy and help the poor gain decent social mobility if you don't have Money




Yes I am obsessed with money and profits and a lot of friends around me are obsessed with profits and money too, and Yes we are Chinese

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I will divide this into parts and why we are so obsessed with Profits.
The first Part will be personal and second part will be a government point of view.

1. Family

1A Parents

We didn't come from a well off family because the Communist took away our lands and properties.
My mum was a Malaysian Chinese from Penang ( Malaysia ) , my grandmother from my mum's side is the 3rd wife.
My dad escaped before the cultural revolution in China to Hong Kong, he has 9 siblings brothers and sister and he is the youngest.
My dad and mum toil 12 hours a day when we were younger to earn money to provide me and my younger brother so that we can have decent food , decent education and the ability to go to overseas universities in the West with relatively ease and comfort.
So I want to earn a lot of money so I can give them back the comforts that they deserve.
This is called Fillia Piety.

1B My wife / Girlfriend

If my wife have been with me when I am still going through a rough patch while building my business or earning my dues and stick to me thick and thin. Gave me children ( this is optional )
I want to earn a lot of money, so I can appreciate her and buy things for her that will give her certain amount of security i.e A Few Apartments or shops in her name, Hermes Birkin , Kelly bags, Chanel etc etc to appreciate for the time she spent with me and supported me through good and bad times.
And I want to give her the BEst that I canYou need Money for those.
This is called Appreciating your other half

1C Children

Read 1A, I want to provide for my kids like the way my parents provided for me, every generation will get better and better, My parents sent me to Australia to study in University , perhaps if I make enough and I am able to provide them with even better education, I can sent them to very decent private schools in US or UK or Switzerland or France if I am really rich which gives them a head start in life. And when they have the ability to enter universities like Ivy Leagues or Oxbridge, they dont have to worry about getting a loan from the bank to pay for their education and a place to stay while studying.
This is call Preparing your next generation
You need Money for this

1D Helping people who are less fortunate

When society treats you well and you make it in life , return some to them, help the needy and the unfortunate through your own means.
It can be donations to schools, hospitals etc etc etc.
This is called Charity
You need money for this


2. Government

If a group of people decided to make Profit as a dirty word because the government is obsessed with it and while I am saying this I meant predominantly sino centric governments then it might ruin the country.
How are you going to provide Infrastructure, defense, healthcare, education, housing etc etc to your population and people in a manner where they can afford and subsidized the needy and help the poor gain decent social mobility if you don't have Money

Yes I am obsessed with money and profits and a lot of friends around me are obsessed with profits and money too, and Yes we are Chinese


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- Money stole by authoritarian power
- Fight for survival
- Women love money
- Extra money to bypass high cost universities
- Agree to pay taxes
- Also a shield, even a weapon


So this is it: Survival experience at individual AND national level. Right ?
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 5 May 2022 19:03)
I will divide this into parts and why we are so obsessed with Profits.
The first Part will be personal and second part will be a government point of view.

1. Family

1a Parents

We didn't come from a well off family because the Communist took away our lands and properties.
My mum was a Malaysian Chinese from Penang ( Malaysia ) , my grandmother from my mum's side is the 3rd wife.
My dad escaped before the cultural revolution in China to Hong Kong, he has 9 siblings brothers and sister and he is the youngest.
My dad and mum toil 12 hours a day when we were younger to earn money to provide me and my younger brother so that we can have decent food , decent education and the ability to go to overseas universities in the West with relatively ease and comfort.
So I want to earn a lot of money so I can give them back the comforts that they deserve.
This is called Fillial Piety.

1b My wife / Girlfriend

If my wife have been with me when I am still going through a rough patch while building my business or earning my dues and stick to me thick and thin. Gave me children ( this is optional )
I want to earn a lot of money, so I can appreciate her and buy things for her that will give her certain amount of security i.e A Few Apartments or shops in her name, Hermes Birkin , Kelly bags, Chanel etc etc to appreciate for the time she spent with me and supported me through good and bad times.
And I want to give her the BEst that I canYou need Money for those.
This is called Appreciating your other half

1c Children

Read 1a, I want to provide for my kids like the way my parents provided for me, every generation will get better and better, My parents sent me to Australia to study in University , perhaps if I make enough and I am able to provide them with even better education, I can sent them to very decent private schools in US or UK or Switzerland or France if I am really rich which gives them a head start in life. And when they have the ability to enter universities like Ivy Leagues or Oxbridge, they dont have to worry about getting a loan from the bank to pay for their education and a place to stay while studying.
This is call Preparing your next generation
You need Money for this

1d Helping people who are less fortunate

When society treats you well and you make it in life , return some to them, help the needy and the unfortunate through your own means.
It can be donations to schools, hospitals etc etc etc.
This is called Charity
You need money for this


2. Government

If a group of people decided to make Profit as a dirty word because the government is obsessed with it and while I am saying this I meant predominantly sino centric governments then it might ruin the country.
How are you going to provide Infrastructure, defense, healthcare, education, housing etc etc to your population and people in a manner where they can afford and subsidized the needy and help the poor gain decent social mobility if you don't have Money

Yes I am obsessed with money and profits and a lot of friends around me are obsessed with profits and money too, and Yes we are Chinese


Thought it's a common human behavior. Let me continue. /joke When we are done with charity we have some free time to murder, rape and conquer Ukraine then celebrate it with vodka playing balalaika with pet bears.
Why did I post it? When there's a war far a way going on it doesn't affect Europeans. They are free to bring democracy to barbarians by a sword killing thousands unprovoked. Then it starts somewhere in Europe, still far away somewhere in Yougoslavia, they are still gucci. But when the war knocks to their door it's not the same, still distant though. And suddenly this chain leads to someone superior to all of the mentioned above. The master race.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 6 May 2022 00:10)
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- Money stole by authoritarian power
That was China in the Past and I am a Singaporean although Singapore has a authoritarian power as well , but they don't confiscate your hard earn properties. And Yes , our properties were stolen from the commies in the past

- Fight for survival
Yes

- Women love money
Not saying that, my point is to provide them and my other half with the best that I can and give them the social security that they need, please note that this is the Asia theater we are talking about not the West, different culture, different upbringing.

- Extra money to bypass high cost universities
Yes, if not you will end up like Americans paying back their loans for a good part of their lives.

- Agree to pay taxes
I don't think Charity or helping people is a way of paying tax, it comes from an individual commitment to return to the society if he or she can, you cannot bring the money to your grave, so give it to your family and society if you can. I don't see that as a tax.

- Also a shield, even a weapon
Yes, with a shield and a weapon, larger powers will think twice before invading you, because you have good amount of trade volumes with them and sometimes even a surplus, you will be protecting their interests and buying their products, larger powers do not want to kill a golden goose because your trades with them help them provide jobs for their population. More Trade, More Jobs. And with advance weaponry , they will think twice because you are like a porcupine , you won't win the larger powers , but you will teach them a lesson they will never forget

So this is it: Survival experience at individual AND national level. Right ?


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