Russian gas isn't cheap compared to what other gas source?

Yes I have, and why hasn't Europe switched to those energy sources in the last 20, 10 years? Why not now? Instead Germany is turning off nuclear reactors, instead Poland is using more coal? You live in Poland, why is Poland asking for gas from Germany instead of switching to the sources you listed in the last 10 years since you yourself admit that Russia has been a threat? Maybe because it's not realistic, maybe because those sources are either not as reliable or affordable?

thats just the unqualified opinion of somebody, who has nothing to do with this

i will never defend this government, but there is no obligation to self destruct



the current status is already a massive burden, our average joe gets impoverished even more to support the sanctions



this statement is just not very smart

of course russian pipeline gas is cheap, thats why we encouraged households and industry to get it

ukraine was not going to be accepted into NATO anyway back then regardless of who blocked what

i am not even gonna start to dismantle the renewable energy argument, but i am glad you mentioned nuclear

quitting nuclear power is the dumbest thing ever, but russia is a big supplier there as well btw

the last time a country got supported like ukraine was in WW2, we already did more than actually can be justified

So they gonna sell Venezuelan oil to Europe? Isn't in banned already? Or is it going to be kosher "American blend"?

Concentration camps, sterilization, for the increasing number of Russian people who have shown opposition to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-warns-russia-may-use-concentration-camps-enemies-no-mercy-1703536

/nb;

Russia: Activists held over 'invisible posters'

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26936770



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 4 2022 12:25pm

Venezuela Oil will not be ban anymore because " Russia " is a bigger threat.
What will happen is , Oil and Gas will be shipped from Venezuela to USA ?
And The Oil and Gas company in USA will re shipped to Europe ?

Something along that line. Maybe

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/05/04/russia-planning-victory-parade-in-mariupol-says-ukrainian-intelligence?utm_source=flipboard.com&utm_campaign=feeds_europe&utm_medium=referral

looks like the russian savages intend to have a parade on top of the bodies of civilians they've murdered

*enemy combatants* (they learned from the best)

Which goes back to what I already wrote in this thread a month ago: an embargo on Russian natural gas would be economical suicide for Europe. Yes, Europe, not just Germany. Russian gas cannot be replaced in an economically feasible fashion anytime soon.

I'm even against this stupid embargo on Russian oil that the EU is proposing atm - it will only lead to a reshuffling of the global oil market. If Europe no longer buys Russian oil, Russia will sell its excess oil production to China and India, ofc at a discount compared to the prices they achieved from the EU. The Chinese and Indians will then buy less from other suppliers on the oil market like the Gulf states. The EU will then buy up the OPEC oil which was freed up this way at a premium to replace the Russian oil.

At the end of the day, transport costs for oil on the global market will increase because more shipping is necessary as opposed to the cheaper pipelines, Europe will pay more for the same amount of oil, China and India less. OPEC will get somewhat higher profit margins. The effect on Russian finances is hard to predict; they will sell less and at a discount, but the turmoil and supply squeeze on the global markets will increase the price of oil, which counteracts these losses. Every scenario between Russia taking a medium-sized hit to Russia actually achieving higher revenue than before the sanctions seems feasible. This oil embargo is counterproductive for Europe and will most likely do fuck all to undermine Russia's economy in the long run.





It's such a tragedy really. Russia and Europe would be natural allies who could have such a symbiotic relationship.... if only the Russians weren't such miserable, antagonistic cunts. In the same vein, the Russian people could have a decent living if it wasn't getting plundered by its corrupt, greedy elite. The country has a tiny population relative to its size and its vast natural resources. If Russian leadership had given a larger share of the commodity revenues to its people and invested into diversifying and strengthening its economy, they could have such a bright future. *sigh*

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 4 2022 08:09pm

You mean if it wasn't for US policies vis a vis NATO and Russia, and trying to drive a wedge because it would be the prime loser in such a scenario.
Europe and Russia allies can't happen unless the eastern European countries (primarily Ukraine and Poland) are neutral.
Instead they are weaponized by USA as puppets encircle, weaken, and project power into Russia.

I believe are justified in current war situation in Europe, that coal isn't that bad. At least one doesnt fund Russia missiles with it, lol.
Coal usage can still be compensated with some trees/forests, and while renewables are great from spring till mid autumn, they cant really alone work in winter, they need some support from either fossils or green hydrogen (stored excess energy from summer) in the winter.
I believe it was the wrong decision to shut down german nuclear plants. I know, there was this accident in Japan, but we dont have earthquakes in Europe. In Poland we want a nuclear plant, and will hopefully get some.
Energy prices were cheap, and Europe relied too much on Russia gas. We need to speed it up now to move away.
Im aware we cant fully get rid of russian gas this winter without limiting our economy. But what about next year? Or in 2 years? Seems doable to me.