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May 4 2022 07:15am
Meanwhile, USD is 68 and Euro is 72 resulting in 2019-like ratio. RBC.
Pedo mustached Dmitry Peskov to deny that Russia will announce mass conscription on May, 9th.
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What a snake. He didn't reject that war can be declared on May, 9th and the conscription will follow somewhat later.
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Quote (Ironfister @ May 4 2022 02:58pm)


and? how about being grateful for what they get, its not like we have much ourselves anyway with our military being a joke

our heavy tanks make zero sense whatsoever as ukraine has exactly zero people who can operate and maintain them

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 4 May 2022 15:33)
and? how about being grateful for what they get, its not like we have much ourselves anyway with our military being a joke

our heavy tanks make zero sense whatsoever as ukraine has exactly zero people who can operate and maintain them


Bolded is wrong attitude. 4th biggest economy and producer of the world.
You guys just arent commited enough.
Its not only about military things.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 4 2022 08:54am
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Bolded is wrong attitude. 4th biggest economy and producer of the world.
You guys just arent commited enough.
Its not only about military things.


Because ze Germans can do math and being committed means self-destructing. In the long run Europe needs a relationship with Russia for resources, there's no other way.

Just to give you rough estimate on gas.

Norway which is picking up much of the slack as many central/Northern EU countries are trying to move away from Russian gas had 1.4 trillion cubic meters in 2020. European gas consumption in 2020 was 380 billion cubic meters.

Obviously today those reserves are not at 1.4 T but lower. So realistically, if Norway was the sole supplier Norway would deplete their gas reserves in 3 years approximately. There's other suppliers like Algeria or the ME but you need years for the infrastructure to be built to be able to bring that gas over much longer distances (which means higher costs). North Africa and the ME are also not bastions of stability so to put all your faith in that supply chain panning out is dumb. US LNG is a thing but once again, very expensive compared to Russian gas next door.

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Because ze Germans can do math and being committed means self-destructing. In the long run Europe needs a relationship with Russia for resources, there's no other way.

Just to give you rough estimate on gas.

Norway which is picking up much of the slack as many central/Northern EU countries are trying to move away from Russian gas had 1.4 trillion cubic meters in 2020. European gas consumption in 2020 was 380 billion cubic meters.

Obviously today those reserves are not at 1.4 T but lower. So realistically, if Norway was the sole supplier Norway would deplete their gas reserves in 3 years approximately. There's other suppliers like Algeria or the ME but you need years for the infrastructure to be built to be able to bring that gas over much longer distances (which means higher costs). North Africa and the ME are also not bastions of stability so to put all your faith in that supply chain panning out is dumb. US LNG is a thing but once again, very expensive compared to Russian gas next door.


Venezuela, but America is trying to regime change Maduro but sanction him to the ground.
Which already happened.

They need oil from Maduro
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Venezuela, but America is trying to regime change Maduro but sanction him to the ground.
Which already happened.

They need oil from Maduro


There is a fair amount of places where gas can be extracted from the problem is distance and infrastructure. The US, Arab peninsula, Africa, Venezuela, can all supply Europe with gas but just look at a map and look at the distance between Germany and Russia and Germany and the US or Germany and UAE or Germany and Venezuela. One is next door with supply lines already established and reliable the others are half a world away.
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Because ze Germans can do math and being committed means self-destructing. In the long run Europe needs a relationship with Russia for resources, there's no other way.

Just to give you rough estimate on gas.

Norway which is picking up much of the slack as many central/Northern EU countries are trying to move away from Russian gas had 1.4 trillion cubic meters in 2020. European gas consumption in 2020 was 380 billion cubic meters.

Obviously today those reserves are not at 1.4 T but lower. So realistically, if Norway was the sole supplier Norway would deplete their gas reserves in 3 years approximately. There's other suppliers like Algeria or the ME but you need years for the infrastructure to be built to be able to bring that gas over much longer distances (which means higher costs). North Africa and the ME are also not bastions of stability so to put all your faith in that supply chain panning out is dumb. US LNG is a thing but once again, very expensive compared to Russian gas next door.


Russia gas isn't cheap, of course Russians give you some discounts, like 10%, to make up for an European blood but that's it. They need a lot of money for missiles to kill people and conquer nationa, so they wont give you gas half price, as you maybe imagine.

Ever heard about renewables? Nuclear energy? Green hydrogen?
Very clean, endless sources of energy. And ones that Russia doesnt close as they recently did officially (Poland/Bulgaria) or unofficially (Germany).

It was the Germany and France that blocked Ukraine way into NATO.
They wanted to keep Putin glad and happy.
Now we see where this kind of thinking led us in Europe, we have a war right now on EU border.
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May 4 2022 10:39am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 5 May 2022 00:31)
There is a fair amount of places where gas can be extracted from the problem is distance and infrastructure. The US, Arab peninsula, Africa, Venezuela, can all supply Europe with gas but just look at a map and look at the distance between Germany and Russia and Germany and the US or Germany and UAE or Germany and Venezuela. One is next door with supply lines already established and reliable the others are half a world away.


Will increase the prices of Energy and it will be a huge burden to the people in Germany.
The people facing problems right now has not reach the german public yet.

The SMEs will be the first to fall in Germany.
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May 4 2022 10:43am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 4 May 2022 19:22)
Venezuela, but America is trying to regime change Maduro but sanction him to the ground.
Which already happened.

They need oil from Maduro


Didn't they try to assassinate him?
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May 4 2022 10:52am
Quote (Norlander @ 5 May 2022 00:43)
Didn't they try to assassinate him?


Tried to, was unsuccessful :lol:
The president that the USA support is now in the States.

But due to this Ukraine War,
they are considering recognizing Maduro now and get him to provide the much needed energy product and are working towards lifting all sanctions in Venezuela .
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