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Nov 18 2021 02:05pm
Quote (sirthom @ Nov 17 2021 06:37pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8sPIMJ7iAc


Just curious how is this even related to covid. Shows athlete dropping or having heart attacks but no connection or study or explanation. Heck you could post literally anything and say anime did it. Just makes people mistrust conspiracy nutters even more
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Nov 18 2021 02:07pm
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Just curious how is this even related to covid. Shows athlete dropping or having heart attacks but no connection or study or explanation. Heck you could post literally anything and say anime did it. Just makes people mistrust conspiracy nutters even more


because things like this are on the increase since the rise in "vaccines"

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Nov 18 2021 02:11pm
Quote (addone @ Nov 18 2021 02:05pm)
Just curious how is this even related to covid. Shows athlete dropping or having heart attacks but no connection or study or explanation. Heck you could post literally anything and say anime did it. Just makes people mistrust conspiracy nutters even more


if genuinely interested, go do some looking. If you do you will see exactly how this is related.

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Nov 18 2021 02:14pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 19 2021 09:07am)
because things like this are on the increase since the rise in "vaccines"

flopping over, the new normal


Is there an actual statistic or you just guessing because you want to comfirm bias? Has this been in any way linked other then OMG he died so it must be covid vaccine reeeee I saw it on bichute reee...

If there is something of value my interest is peaked if not this is straight up misinformation and troll.
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Nov 18 2021 02:18pm
Quote (thundercock @ 18 Nov 2021 20:49)
Boosters are wildly available and free which is nice. However, I think it'd be more prudent to buy as much supply as possible and give them away to the 3rd world. The next variant will likely come from there and this is one of the better ways to combat that.


We'll talk about it again in around 6-8 weeks when shit hits the fan in the non-Southern US and Democratic governors are locking down entire states again.

Here's a little incidence chart from my state of Bavaria:


And here is the curve of ICU occupancy (note that ICU admissions lag behind cases by a week or so):


Keep in mind that this is with a vaccination rate of 85% for seniors and 75% for the entire adult population.
Similar trends in Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and so on and on.


Also keep in mind that the current 14% weekly growth of covid cases in the US is made up of two diverging trends, declining case numbers in the South and surges in the North. For example, look at Michigan:


Whitmer is probably already chomping at the bit to trigger the next round of lockdowns. :rolleyes:
My prediction: in hindsight, hoarding vaccines will turn out to be one of the best decisions of the entire Biden presidency. Trust me, in the not too distant future, your country will be happy to have them.

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Quote (sirthom @ Nov 19 2021 09:11am)
if genuinely interested, go do some looking. If you do you will see exactly how this is related.


Help me find those sources in the sea of Google searches would save me a great deal if you could link me something of value.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 19 2021 09:18am)
We'll talk about it again in around 6-8 weeks when shit hits the fan in the non-Southern US and Democratic governors are locking down entire states again.

Here's a little incidence chart from my state of Bavaria:
https://i.imgur.com/PXO2JMJ.jpg

And here is the curve of ICU occupancy:
https://i.imgur.com/FxWc7Za.jpg

Keep in mind that this is with a vaccination rate of 85% for seniors and 75% for the entire adult population.
Similar trends in Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and so on and on.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YTIMGmZUr4

Also keep in mind that the current 14% weekly growth of covid cases in the US is made up of two diverging trends, declining case numbers in the South and surges in the North. For example, look at Michigan:
https://i.imgur.com/CwdOuAA.jpg

Whitmer is probably already chomping at the bit to trigger the next round of lockdowns. :rolleyes:
My prediction: in hindsight, hoarding vaccines will turn out to be one of the best decisions of the entire Biden presidency. Trust me, in the not too distant future, your country will be happy to have them.


So would you get the vaccine?

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Quote (addone @ 18 Nov 2021 21:18)
Help me find those sources in the sea of Google searches would save me a great deal if you could link me something of value.
So would you get the vaccine?


I already did?!

They're still very effective if sufficiently fresh - the problem right now is just that a waning protection against transmission, coupled with nasty seasonal effects, cause a huge surge of case numbers while too many people are still vulnerable, either because they're unvacced or because they didn't receive their booster in time.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Nov 2021 19:36)
After this winter is over, the number of covid fatalities during Biden's presidency will be at least 50%, perhaps 100%, higher than Trump's... and that's in spite of the availability of vaccines.

to quote excellence: "LMAO pathetic!"


One pushed hard on masks and vaccination while the other said "it will go away" 40 times despite experts advices on a period of 6 months or so.

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Nov 18 2021 04:21pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 19 2021 09:38am)
I already did?!

They're still very effective if sufficiently fresh - the problem right now is just that a waning protection against transmission, coupled with nasty seasonal effects, cause a huge surge of case numbers while too many people are still vulnerable, either because they're unvacced or because they didn't receive their booster in time.


You got 2 boosters aswell? Also makes me wonder the effectiveness of it really is.

On another note I keep hearing it will protect my community if I get a shot. But I don't see how if I get it with vaccine or with antibodies
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Quote (addone @ 18 Nov 2021 23:21)
You got 2 boosters aswell? Also makes me wonder the effectiveness of it really is.

On another note I keep hearing it will protect my community if I get a shot. But I don't see how if I get it with vaccine or with antibodies


I'm not boostered yet because I'm young and healthy and therefore low on the priority list. Also, I only got my second dose in late July so I'm not even eligible yet.


To your second question: first, a fresh vaccination does provide very strong protection against transmission for the first couple of months. By getting jabbed, you're taking yourself mostly out of the transmission chains for crucial months.
Second, it is true that in terms of the statistical risk of going to the ICU and clogging up limited resources in the healthcare system, the vaccination or the booster of young folks doesn't contribute all that much. Your risk of ending up on a ventilator is indeed miniscule. But it's not zero and even miniscule risk adds up when we aggregate it over tens of millions of cases.
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