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Quote (IceMage @ Oct 30 2020 09:39am)
I expect anyone in politics or on television not to call 1,000 American dying every day "almost nothing".


fake numbers

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I expect anyone in politics or on television not to call 1,000 American dying every day "almost nothing".


built a coalition within the GOP based partially on daily death counts from Iraq/Afghanistan that were a TINY fraction of Covid daily deaths.

its not about death, life, etc. never has been.

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As of July 27, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan. 1,856 of these deaths have been the result of hostile action. 20,320 American servicemembers have also been wounded in action during the war. In addition, there were 1,720 U.S. civilian contractor fatalities.
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Oct 30 2020 09:43am
Maybe we can all come together with:
Bush is still a much worse president and the middle east will never recover from his administrations crimes against humanity.
Trump is real bad on the whole democracy thing, but Bush takes the fucking cake when it comes to death count civilian and otherwise.

Oh Thought this was the corruption thread because its basically the same talking points over there lol.

This post was edited by Mangix on Oct 30 2020 09:43am
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Quote (Mangix @ Oct 30 2020 11:43am)
Maybe we can all come together with:
Bush is still a much worse president and the middle east will never recover from his administrations crimes against humanity.
Trump is real bad on the whole democracy thing, but Bush takes the fucking cake when it comes to death count civilian and otherwise.

Oh Thought this was the corruption thread because its basically the same talking points over there lol.



Bush got conned by the deep state

By the time he realized it was too late. Admission of error was politically untenable
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Breaking records everyday boys

100k new today in the U S of A
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Breaking records everyday boys

100k new today in the U S of A


Numbers are catastrophic all across the northern hemisphere.

49k in France (pop: 67m)
31k in Italy (60m)
25k in Spain (47m)
24k in the UK (67m)
24k in Belgium (11.5m)
19k in Germany (83m)
11k in the Netherlands (17m)
21k in Poland (38m)
13k in the Czech Republic (10.7m)
9200 in Switzerland (8.6m)
5600 in Austria (8.9m)


So with the exception of Germany (which is close), all those major European countries have a higher incidence than the U.S. (pop: 329m) at the moment. Belgium, in particular, is a complete disaster zone. Their numbers would be equivalent to 688k daily cases in the U.S.

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Quote (Bazi @ Oct 30 2020 08:45pm)
Breaking records everyday boys

100k new today in the U S of A


hey usa can legit say 1# in something again
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Numbers are catastrophic all across the northern hemisphere.

49k in France (pop: 67m)
31k in Italy (60m)
25k in Spain (47m)
24k in the UK (67m)
24k in Belgium (11.5m)
19k in Germany (83m)
11k in the Netherlands (17m)
21k in Poland (38m)
13k in the Czech Republic (10.7m)
9200 in Switzerland (8.6m)
5600 in Austria (8.9m)


So with the exception of Germany (which is close), all those major European countries have a higher incidence than the U.S. (pop: 329m) at the moment. Belgium, in particular, is a complete disaster zone. Their numbers would be equivalent to 688k daily cases in the U.S.


All Trump's fault because REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 30 2020 07:16pm
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All Trump's fault because REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Well, to be fair, the US seem to be 1-2 weeks behind Europe in the current surge. I wouldnt be surprised if you see daily numbers in excess of 200k per day by the end of November.
What's interesting, however, is that there are big surges in Illinois and Michigan at the moment - Whitmer's strict course on the pandemic seems unable to stop the tide.


My personal, preliminary takeaway from all those various observations is that seasonality/weather and spatial effects play a bigger role than initially thought, while the impact of political decisions on the general course of the pandemic seems overrated.

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Well, to be fair, the US seem to be 1-2 weeks behind Europe in the current surge. I wouldnt be surprised if you see daily numbers in excess of 200k per day by the end of November.
What's interesting, however, is that there are big surges in Illinois and Michigan at the moment - Whitmer's strict course on the pandemic seems unable to stop the tide.


My personal, preliminary takeaway from all those various observations is that seasonality/weather and spatial effects play a bigger role than initially thought, while the impact of political decisions on the general course of the pandemic seems overrated.


Another issue is the PCR tests themselves

Expert biologists recommend running ~25 threshold cycles of PCR but depending on the manufacturer some tests use ~35 threshold cycles, in which a piece of fruit cpuld test positive.

The tests dont detect viral load either. Cases below a certain viral load are noncontagious.

The drop in death rate is support for all of this.

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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1322001939266109441

Don Jr: Death numbers are down to almost nothing.

There were around 1,000 COVID deaths yesterday.

It's incomprehensible to me that any reasonable person can support a political coalition made up of people who say stuff like that. It's complete madness.


7000 people die every day. It is significant but not worthy of destroying our civilization.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 30 2020 07:31pm
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