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May 2 2022 03:54pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 2 2022 10:48pm)
What do you mean that my stance is irrelevant? Yes im a polish citizen.


Yeah that was obvious.

I mean you live in a country that was historically raped by oppressing forces, demolishing your people's moral, education and compassion. It resulted in massive patriotism ran by hate towards everything and everyone that isn't polish.
It's ran by church more than politicians, with rules and laws being pulled straight out of ethic catholic behaviour, or at least that's an excuse for those horribly tragic lawmaking that takes rights from it's people.
However its europes first country in nazism/neo nazism, racism, nationalism and hate speech.

As we saw with ukraine case, poland took ukrainians cos it was agreed with EU to do so, but black/brown exchange students in ukraine with valid papers were refused from entry to poland.

The way people are born and raised in poland might easily defect your views on foreign politics and bigger picture. I mean polish TV was saying how being gay is a new trend and fashion which should stop cos its against biblical morals, and if we keep doing it, 50 years from now there will be no kids cos everyone woll be gay. Solid material to be fed since young age

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You sound polish tbh which kind of makes majority of your political stances irrelevant.
R u polish?


It was obvious as he polished Biden's ass
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Quote (Norlander @ May 2 2022 10:54pm)
It was obvious as he polished Biden's ass


Most of your flag viewers in profile are russian. Reported for treason with that ukrainian flag in avatar you spy
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Most of your flag viewers in profile are russian. Reported for treason with that ukrainian flag in avatar you spy


Is it criminal to be Ukrainian in Russia and question it's government for this so called special operation?
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May 2 2022 04:00pm
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Is it criminal to be Ukrainian in Russia and question it's government for this so called special operation?


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May 2 2022 04:07pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 2 2022 10:49pm)
This is like never the case though. Should we never have fought the war for independence and just went the Canada/Australia route? Idk. Ultimately might makes right.



The US would of never blossomed into possibly the greatest empire maybe aside from the Roman Empire to have ever existed if the south broke away. Lets suppose the south won enough so the north accepted their secession. In a generation or two those borders and new nation states probably would of been cemented, and the modern US would probably been broken up into 2,3,4 etc countries. I think ultimately what happened benefitted everyone living in the states now.


i would agree, multiple states or whatever in the same territory the united states are now would have been a mess with more conflict on the horizon

i just reject the good vs bad narrative

Quote (thundercock @ May 2 2022 10:50pm)
I mean, it's pretty clear that white supremacy was a major factor in keeping blacks as slaves. Primary sources corroborate that statement (just take a look at Stephens' statements, state constitutions, etc.)

Anyway, I'd definitely push back on the 2nd statement as well because there was an abolitionist movement in America ever since its founding. It was obviously pretty small early on but it definitely grew larger so I'm not sure how you can say that "nobody gave a shit about black slaves." If no one gave a shit, then there'd be no reason to secede because no threat to their economic system would exist.


there was some serious beef about taxation and state rights, the north wanted to enforce their version of the united states

the elite of the south wanted to keep their privileges in a clearly inferior system

a small abolitionist movement (fair enough) still wont change that this was a power struggle and not about human rights

it was just a matter of time until the southern system would have collapsed or the people there adapted before, but that wouldnt be enough to solve the conflict, when the south would still demand more independence and lower contributions among other things
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May 2 2022 04:14pm
Quote (Ironfister @ 3 May 2022 05:14)
Now its about Ukraine and Moldova which makes about 48mln people.
But just as a Hitler didnt stop on Austria and Czechoslovakia, we can expect Putin to destabilise and attack more countries next, if we "give" the Ukraine to him.
As I already said in this topic earlier, western Europe countries arent really ready for war, with an exception of UK of course.
Western Europe while world leaders on economy, have a small army.
President Biden is a great leader, but we cant be sure if next usa president will be as good and whether he will help Europe people with American blood. Every USA president needs to think about USA first, and I understand it.
So the best, possibly only time to stop Putin is now, in Ukraine.
Its also cheap for us, all we got to do is to lend some cash, supplies and weapons to Ukrainians.
Who are courageus, battle veterans and willing to defend themselves and whole Europe.
And to stop funding Russia regime with oil/gas/coal payments (as much as possible, if not 100% this year, then cut 70%).
This is the proper way in current situation.


First things first, the foremost destabilizing superpower in our current world is the USA. And the reason for them to do it , if I was an American citizen, I will think is fine.
President Biden is not a good leader, neither is Trump or most of the American presidents after World War 2.
The only two that I think is fairly good is JFK ( got shot ) and barely passing will be Reagan.

Trump might not be welcome in a lot of places, he is disgusting. But , he would have prevented a lot of shit from happening. I have already commented this on my previous post and I stay true to my comments. But he is still a dick, but the world will be a slightly better place with him around.
Cheap for you to lend some cash and weapons to Ukraine? You are pushing their civilians to a hell hole. Instead of getting the Egoistic turd in Russia and the USA puppet onto the table to work things out, Like what Trump told them to do. you are fueling what is already an unnecessary war.
Ukrainians are not defending Europe, they are defending their sovereignty , so please don't be naive.

Europe will still buy from Russia, as a matter of fact your government is going through backdoor channels to buy from Russia.

Ironfist, you are being sold an American freedom dream, which is not a dream at all. It is a nightmare, you will see it soon. We have already experienced it reasonably well in East, South East and South Asia. We know it very very well.

I tell you what will happen with the " lend lease project " that Biden is offering to Ukraine, when the war is done and dusted, Ukrainian citizens, their children, grand children and great grand children, will be paying for the next 50 to 60 years back to the USA.
They will be subjected to the United States foreign policy for a long time to come.

Why do you think the US and NATO are asking ex Warsaw pact countries to send all their ex soviet weapons to Ukraine. On one hand of course the Ukrainians are familiar with it. But that is not the most important issue.
The most important issue here is , what happens when 90% of those weapons, planes, tanks are used up and destroyed.

Guess who will be the next weapon supplier ?
Europe as I see it in the East, is being used as a sacrificial lamb in this conflict , not just Ukraine, and it bemused me that Brexit happened just a few years back before this conflict escalated up to this point. It seems to me some people know how and when to push the right button.

You know how many refugees the United states accepted in the month of march from Ukraine?
13.

Your idea that the USA is a peaceful loving , freedom loving and honorable country really make me scratch my head.

Here is the question, do you think Russia threatening, invading a sovereign country is right or no, if their security and red line is being crossed

answer me the above and I am going to show you something that just happened in the last two weeks.

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May 2 2022 04:15pm
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May 2 2022 04:41pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 2 May 2022 23:54)
Yeah that was obvious.

I mean you live in a country that was historically raped by oppressing forces, demolishing your people's moral, education and compassion. It resulted in massive patriotism ran by hate towards everything and everyone that isn't polish.
It's ran by church more than politicians, with rules and laws being pulled straight out of ethic catholic behaviour, or at least that's an excuse for those horribly tragic lawmaking that takes rights from it's people.
However its europes first country in nazism/neo nazism, racism, nationalism and hate speech.

As we saw with ukraine case, poland took ukrainians cos it was agreed with EU to do so, but black/brown exchange students in ukraine with valid papers were refused from entry to poland.


Hate towards everything/everyone that isn't polish? Seriously?

I can speak about my country, no problem.
Its true that we currently have strictest antiabortian ław in EU, but really since the borders are open there is no problem to go another EU country to do it. Its perfectly legal to go another EU country to get your abortion.
So we dont really care about it much - dead ław.
Church doesnt run the country here. Only 1/3 polish people worships weekly and the rate is falling.
Nazism? Never heard about it, in fact Poland has refused nazi offer to attack ussr together. We also wanted to attack Hitler's Germany as early as 1935, but France didnt want as they hoped Hitler wasnt that bad.
Racism? Pakistan/Bangladesh/chinese people run kebab/asian bars on every corner. Also a lot of international students studies here.
As an ex-soviet occupied country we dont have a big number minorities, and people arent really used to multiculturalism, but it aint bad. In my company there is a guy with a name Mohammed, works for like 7years already and nobody has any problems with him. In local chemistry near me there was working a guy from Marocco for something like 5years, also no problem, people were happy. Opened his own chemistry some other place.
Give me a source about Brown/Black students that were refused entry from Ukraine escaping war.
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There you go guys, part of the integral problem that we are watching things unfold right before our eyes.


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