Achtung! Nazi alert!

https://tg24.sky.it/mondo/2022/05/01/lavrov-russia-intervista

This post was edited by Norlander on May 2 2022 03:09pm

You should vote left IMO

Maybe if you weren't talking to someone who was born in eastern Europe and regularly traveled to places like Moldova and Ukraine they would buy this nonsense but I know better. This slavery you speak of is nonsense and not based on even an ounce of reality. Are those places under Russian dominion and influence? Largely yes. Does that mean those people are slaves? No.

A lot of people (older people, boomers and older) in these republics actually longed for how things were under communism because the vacuum that was left afterwards was much harsher. My dad used to always say things like at least we had guaranteed jobs, housing, healthcare, food, etc. Because when you compared that to the economic conditions that followed in the 1990's living under communism in the USSR between 60-80s was like an utopia.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 2 2022 03:10pm

Now its about Ukraine and Moldova which makes about 48mln people.
But just as a Hitler didnt stop on Austria and Czechoslovakia, we can expect Putin to destabilise and attack more countries next, if we "give" the Ukraine to him.
As I already said in this topic earlier, western Europe countries arent really ready for war, with an exception of UK of course.
Western Europe while world leaders on economy, have a small army.
President Biden is a great leader, but we cant be sure if next usa president will be as good and whether he will help Europe people with American blood. Every USA president needs to think about USA first, and I understand it.
So the best, possibly only time to stop Putin is now, in Ukraine.
Its also cheap for us, all we got to do is to lend some cash, supplies and weapons to Ukrainians.
Who are courageus, battle veterans and willing to defend themselves and whole Europe.
And to stop funding Russia regime with oil/gas/coal payments (as much as possible, if not 100% this year, then cut 70%).
This is the proper way in current situation.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 2 2022 03:21pm

Slavery was the single largest factor for the south seceding by a mile. It's not even close. They made painstaking efforts to lay out slavery as their goal in both their personal writings and their declarations of secession.

The union did a good job of liberating blacks in the south, and this is supported by the great number of blacks elected to offices in that time. It was only after federal troops were removed that blacks were significantly set back. Prior to that they were making great strides to come out the economic conditions they were layed into. We were also going to give reparations, but that was backtracked on as part of the same system.

Really sucks. If we had kept federal troops in the south for longer to enforce the new order we would be far ahead on racial issues. It's probably Lincoln's biggest mistake that he took a VP who was in such opposition to abolition.

The fact that you said Biden is a good leader kinda turn me off, but I will reply soon.
Farming a few more mephisto runs at the moment

I was also borned in eastern Europe.
There were around 20millions of Stalin victims.
You dont hear their relations now, because they are dead.
We had some luck, that ussr leaders after Stalin were less cruel than him.
But can we be sure it will be the same with Putin?
No, we cannot. Next Russia president can be just as evil as Putin.
And what will you do then? Nothing.
"Prepare for the worst, hope for the best."
One more thing. Old people usually have a good memories about times when they were young.
One more thing, you were talking about economic things, but economy is not everything.
For me, if Russian catch me, and force me to work or pay taxes for Putin, to help him achieve success, while I hate that guy, that would be at least a semi-slavery to me. Even if they give me food and housing, I wouldnt be happy helping that bastard.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 2 2022 03:44pm

You sound polish tbh which kind of makes majority of your political stances irrelevant.
R u polish?

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on May 2 2022 03:44pm

What do you mean that my stance is irrelevant? Yes im a polish citizen.

Stalin's bloody hands have reached twenty times more eastern europeans than his own people. I'd exhume him and shoot for such a treason.