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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 2 May 2022 08:13)
Do you think China's decision to "force" big cities lockdowns is done just to show to the west that its authoritarian non-democratic regime/model is better ?


Does this situation looks very familiar to you when it comes to crossing Red Lines ?





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Do you think China's decision to "force" big cities lockdowns is done just to show to the west that its authoritarian non-democratic regime/model is better ?


I mean for someone from France, it seems you really love the Leader of Nato very much.
:lol:

When your Submarines are being cock blocked from making sales to Australia by them
When they threaten Taiwan to stop any help if Taiwan buys Dassault Rafale instead of F 16s
When most Recently they make Taiwan turn their back from Airbus and buy the New 787s instead because same shit, there will be some geo political consequences if they don buy 787s

:lol:
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 2 May 2022 00:36)
Does this situation looks very familiar to you when it comes to crossing Red Lines ?
https://i.imgur.com/xPLGGpxm.jpg

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 2 May 2022 00:33)
Do you think when America /Australia threaten Solomon Island with possible "military" action, an Island whose population is less than 1 Million because they recently signed a security agreement with China last 2 weeks is supporting democracy and respecting other country's sovereignty ?


China has no governement changes, it has all the time it wants to slowly, insidiously, take territories.
Deadly riots happened end 2021 "fed by the resentment of part of the population against the growing influence of China. Shops held by Chinese had been vandalized and burned down"
Not sure what is happening inthere; Balancing foreign powers attempt from local governement ? Corruption ?
China would probably want to install some military base. Near a non nuclear West country...
I'm saying China... Btw it's incorrect, it's the authoritarian chinese party & associated oligarches ...

Did you like this cake ? How about my initial question on these lockdowns ? :lol:

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 2 May 2022 00:41)
I mean for someone from France, it seems you really love the Leader of Nato very much.
:lol:

When your Submarines are being cock blocked from making sales to Australia by them
When they threaten Taiwan to stop any help if Taiwan buys Dassault Rafale instead of F 16s
When most Recently they make Taiwan turn their back from Airbus and buy the New 787s instead because same shit, there will be some geo political consequences if they don buy 787s

:lol:


Submarine story is terrible. Airbus is doing good since a while already.
https://www.aviationnepal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Boeing-Vs-Airbus-Charts.jpeg


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China has no governement changes, it has all the time it wants to slowly, insidiously, take territories.
Deadly riots happened end 2021 "fed by the resentment of part of the population against the growing influence of China. Shops held by Chinese had been vandalized and burned down"
Not sure what is happening inthere; Balancing foreign powers attempt from local governement ? Corruption ?
China would probably want to install some military base. Near a non nuclear West country...
I'm saying China... Btw it's incorrect, it's the authoritarian chinese party & associated oligarches ...

Did you like this cake ? How about my initial question on these lockdowns ? :lol:


You mean the deadly riots when the US government gave 500k USD to Daniel Suidani the opposition leader in 2018 when the ruling government decided to go with the Chinese investments?
When the opposition party coulding win and when China is looming around they increased funding to the party up to 30 Million USD?
When the Solomon island government asked the Australians to help quell the protest and they protected everything accept for Chinatown ?

Or when the US closed their embassy in i guess 1992 because the island is unimportant to them and handed it over to Australia and Taiwan to maintain the "relationship"

Is that the resentment ?

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 2 May 2022 08:53)
China has no governement changes, it has all the time it wants to slowly, insidiously, take territories.
Deadly riots happened end 2021 "fed by the resentment of part of the population against the growing influence of China. Shops held by Chinese had been vandalized and burned down"
Not sure what is happening inthere; Balancing foreign powers attempt from local governement ? Corruption ?
China would probably want to install some military base. Near a non nuclear West country...
I'm saying China... Btw it's incorrect, it's the authoritarian chinese party & associated oligarches ...

Did you like this cake ? How about my initial question on these lockdowns ? :lol:



Submarine story is terrible. Airbus is doing good since a while already.
https://www.aviationnepal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Boeing-Vs-Airbus-Charts.jpeg


by the way

https://thediplomat.com/2020/10/us-aid-pledge-to-pro-taiwan-solomon-islands-province-raises-eyebrows/

is this considered foreign interference ? The supposed Aid to the opposition ? :lol:

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 1 2022 08:36pm)
Does this situation looks very familiar to you when it comes to crossing Red Lines ?



https://i.imgur.com/xPLGGpxh.jpg


Seen that and the hypocrisy is too much tbh.

The west on Ukraine: "Every country has the right to align themselves with whomever they want"
The west on Solomon Islands: "Solomon Islands signing a cooperation deal with China is completely unacceptable, we will fund political opposition and don't rule out military action"

edit: imagine if a time came when Russia or China was funding, arming and gearing Mexico for a war with the US.

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by the way

https://thediplomat.com/2020/10/us-aid-pledge-to-pro-taiwan-solomon-islands-province-raises-eyebrows/

is this considered foreign interference ? The supposed Aid to the opposition ? :lol:


I don't have all the details on this specific subject. I am not sure you are not omitting some details or important points.
I can assure you that the diplomat published some others articles on this.

Btw i was checking EEZ per country
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-exclusive-economic-zones.html
That's great.

Y so it was about these weird covid lockdown china is doing... Forget it...
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 1 2022 08:33pm)
Do you think when America /Australia threaten Solomon Island with possible "military" action, an Island whose population is less than 1 Million because they recently signed a security agreement with China last 2 weeks is supporting democracy and respecting other country's sovereignty ?


The United States makes hard choices, it has a lot of responsibility. But if we're comparing degrees, it seems far more preferable to strong-arm the Solomon Islands into making the right decision than it would be to violently subjugate a more prosperous, democratic state. To that end, China won't even grace foreign nations with recognition unless they recognize China's right to violently subjugate a more prosperous, socially healthy state. Talk about intruding on the sovereignty of others.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 2 May 2022 09:09)
I don't have all the details on this specific subject. I am not sure you are not omitting some details or important points.
I can assure you that the diplomat published some others articles on this.

Btw i was checking EEZ per country
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-exclusive-economic-zones.html
That's great.

Y so it was about these weird covid lockdown china is doing... Forget it...


No you can talk about the lock down is fine. The Shanghai government are assholes.
I have way lot more information than you.
My mates in Shanghai are posting photos and how they procure food, yes people are protesting and giving the Shanghai Mayor the finger.
I have never ever said the Chinese government were good by the way.

But here is the thing in regards to your comment " Do you think China's decision to "force" big cities lockdowns is done just to show to the west that its authoritarian non-democratic regime/model is better ? "
Are you trying to condescend our ethnicity by telling us that you know better?

And it is not just us, the Indians as well , you guys have been condescending them.
You think you know us Asian's better , or lets be specific the Chinese and Indians better and you know our culture better and presume that your kind of ideologue or government system is perhaps superior.

When the Indians have a 4.5k to 5k years of continuous uninterrupted culture building
And the Chinese have around 3.5k to 5k years of continuous uninterrupted culture building

I don't know... you tell me. :lol:

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Quote (bogie160 @ May 1 2022 09:13pm)
The United States makes hard choices, it has a lot of responsibility. But if we're comparing degrees, it seems far more preferable to strong-arm the Solomon Islands into making the right decision than it would be to violently subjugate a more prosperous, democratic state. To that end, China won't even grace foreign nations with recognition unless they recognize China's right to violently subjugate a more prosperous, socially healthy state. Talk about intruding on the sovereignty of others.


The right decision for the Solomon Islands is and should be decided by them not the behemoth powers around them. That's the logical conclusion if we are true to our principles of democracy and self-determinacy which we quote when funding wars such as the one in Ukraine. You can't have it both ways. In reality it's all about hegemony.
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