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May 29 2020 12:48pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 11:40am)
Freeman all but admitted during the conference that they rushed to charge him because of the riots, before their case was ready. He repeatedly stressed how abnormally fast this charge came, fastest ever against an officer for anything
They don't even have the coroner's report, and he's clearly being given less due process than an ordinary civilian would at this point.


He's not being given less due process than civilians. Civilians who're witnessed committing a crime are arrested either on the spot, or as soon as an officer can get to them. They are not given days prior to the arrest.

They had solid grounds for an attempted murder charge. That's all they had to arrest him over. Once it was handed over to the prosecutor, the prosecutor could add charges and change charges as they saw fit. And higher level murder charges can still be added.
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May 29 2020 12:54pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ May 29 2020 02:48pm)
You know, the worst I ever did was steal people's Diablo II accounts and items by using the /dnd scam.

I've come a long way, thankfully.


When I was a young lad I did fall prey to the old trick of getting me to download that program that makes you drop your shit while the other guy just casually grabs ur shit. Luckily for me it was on a low level character, just some sigon n' shit. But I still remember the humiliation of being such a gullible person. Never again lads. I had forgotten about this memory until you mentioned your scamming :(

I feel like trash talking back in counter strike and being a little salty that my guildies in WoW were often headless chicken dying to AoE for no reason is def not worst than stealing people's stuff.


Good thing you never scammed on jsp amirite... inb4 This isn't handcuffs first account :rofl:




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I feel like trash talking back in counter strike and being a little salty that my guildies in WoW were often headless chicken dying to AoE for no reason is def not worst than stealing people's stuff.



This post was edited by Helloween7 on May 29 2020 12:55pm
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May 29 2020 12:56pm
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When I was a young lad I did fall prey to the old trick of getting me to download that program that makes you drop your shit while the other guy just casually grabs ur shit. Luckily for me it was on a low level character, just some sigon n' shit. But I still remember the humiliation of being such a gullible person. Never again lads. I had forgotten about this memory until you mentioned your scamming :(

I feel like trash talking back in counter strike and being a little salty that my guildies in WoW were often headless chicken dying to AoE for no reason is def not worst than stealing people's stuff.


Good thing you never scammed on jsp amirite... inb4 This isn't handcuffs first account :rofl:



Lmao the old “map hack for free” public games
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May 29 2020 01:00pm
Quote (Giannis @ May 29 2020 01:47pm)
I wish this was the narrative being talked about because self hatred and irrational violence is a much greater problem than cops who go rogue and conduct themselves outside of protocols. Bring justice for George Floyd by trying him for murder, but then let’s examine the plank in our own eyes in our own communities. This is what really irks me about supposed “black leaders” who won’t even condemn irrational anger. It’s total madness

What do you think are similar problematic mentalities in other communities?


"well he had a record so he must have been doing something wrong"

"im not racist, but my daughter better not bring home a black bf"

"i can explain to you what black people are mad about because im one of the good white people"

"shes mexican, so probably undocumented"

etc

white people operate on all sorts of assumptions and generalities which make racial unity a lot harder at times.
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May 29 2020 01:01pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 01:40pm)
Freeman all but admitted during the conference that they rushed to charge him because of the riots, before their case was ready. He repeatedly stressed how abnormally fast this charge came, fastest ever against an officer for anything
They don't even have the coroner's report, and he's clearly being given less due process than an ordinary civilian would at this point.


They have plenty of time to straighten things out. And no, he's gotten way more than a citizen gets.
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May 29 2020 01:02pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 01:40pm)
Freeman all but admitted during the conference that they rushed to charge him because of the riots, before their case was ready. He repeatedly stressed how abnormally fast this charge came, fastest ever against an officer for anything
They don't even have the coroner's report, and he's clearly being given less due process than an ordinary civilian would at this point.


What is an ordinary civilian? I've seen many given WAY less due process. Officers get the special treatment, I get it they have access to use deadly force for their job. The system taking MONTHS to address this is a pathetic joke though.

The charge sounded expedited to me, but the correct one. Given the state of affairs, I'm happy with it. Hope this diffuses the situation going into the weekend. Maybe more charges to come?

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Quote (thesnipa @ May 29 2020 02:00pm)
"well he had a record so he must have been doing something wrong"

"im not racist, but my daughter better not bring home a black bf"

"i can explain to you what black people are mad about because im one of the good white people"

"shes mexican, so probably undocumented"

etc

white people operate on all sorts of assumptions and generalities which make racial unity a lot harder at times.



For sure I can agree with all of those being prevalent. Do you think that Trump emboldens White people being more outwardly racist or feeling justified in those types of rationalities?
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May 29 2020 01:10pm
Quote (Giannis @ May 29 2020 02:02pm)
For sure I can agree with all of those being prevalent. Do you think that Trump emboldens White people being more outwardly racist or feeling justified in those types of rationalities?


i think that people being more outwardly racist is about as prevalent as cop shootings, but just as spotlighted.

shit loads of people ARE racist, were racist, and are gonna be racist for a long time.

but some white guy tells a black guy "this is trump's america now" and all of a sudden we're seeing a massive increase in racism. just doesnt add up to me.

if anything increases in racist behavior are offset by voting shame, white people scared to tell others they even voted for Trump let alone be as bold to be racist in public.

what trump did was inspire racists to vote more imo, not a huge amount, but in the north at least they were tired of GOP's racist light agenda. call out mexicans directly and they're back in.
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May 29 2020 01:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 29 2020 11:40am)
Freeman all but admitted during the conference that they rushed to charge him because of the riots, before their case was ready. He repeatedly stressed how abnormally fast this charge came, fastest ever against an officer for anything
They don't even have the coroner's report, and he's clearly being given less due process than an ordinary civilian would at this point.


Maybe more than a white person killing a black person in the South but definitely not in general. What an outrageous statement.
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May 29 2020 01:21pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 29 2020 02:13pm)
Maybe more than a white person killing a black person in the South but definitely not in general. What an outrageous statement.


Virtually all murder charges that come without being arrested at the scene come weeks later after coroners reports, after extensive interviews and forensics and only when the case is actually coherent and ready. There was a guy just a few blocks away who murdered his girlfriend years ago. He was not arrested for 4 weeks, then he went to trial and was convicted and sent away for a long long time. Due process means treating everyone the same. And unless you're arrested at the scene by responding officers who judge a crime to obviously have been committed, arrests aren't prompt, nor should they be. They haven't even announced Floyd's cause of death yet, and from Freeman's press conference it sure sounds like the state doesn't even know if Floyd died of homicide or overdose or natural causes. They don't know to what degree being restrained contributed to his death. That's information that obviously hinges the difference between whether it should be prosecuted for murder or not, and Freeman all but admitted he rushed charges before they were ready simply to appease a mob.
There's no justice in a mob
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