Quote (IceMage @ Oct 9 2019 06:33pm)
I don't think any honest person can claim they had no impact.
The most obvious example is the release of DNC emails poisoned Bernie Sanders supporters right before the convention. You can argue that it's good bias or wrongdoing was exposed, but you can't simultaneously argue that it had no impact in November.
That's the important part of the Russian interference. I don't think Facebook/Twitter nonsense had much of an impact. Which is why Trump supporters who want to minimize the Russian interference only focus on that. For example:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/politics/jared-kushner-facebook-ads.htmlAnd its a valid argument over whether its good bias or wrongdoing was exposed.
Have you seen
any conversation in the media whenever the Russian meddling is brought up over the two crucial points about 1) Its morally ambiguous who really bears responsibility when they exposed wrongdoing by Hillary and 2) Putin was responding tit-for-tat to similar provocation by Hillary in 2011? The only time I've seen it brought up was in a 2016 PBS documentary before the election. Since then it was all about muh collusion and mueller and obstruction and so on, because lets be real, no liberals ever actually gave a shit about Russia to begin with ('member the reset button?), they only cared about Trump and only concerned themselves with what tools could be used to damage Trump.
Because that brings us to 3) that the monsters due on maple street could never do as much damage as we do to ourselves
Russia used a few hackers to spearphish emails and publish them. So what? I'd argue that we have everyday occurrences that are far more serious, with lives lost or money on the line. Not
information about
scandals. There's good reason to minimize what Russia did- it has weakened us both internally and externally as Americans have spent 3 years fighting each other and demonizing Russia instead of fighting our actual geopolitical threat, China. The fact that 1 million people can be living in concentration camps- actual concentration camps, not comfy detention facilities- and the political discourse just turns a blind eye to it and focus on Russian boogeymen who
released emails and Ukrainians who are
investigating Hunter Biden.
This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 9 2019 06:02pm