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Apr 29 2022 11:23pm
Quote (Norlander @ 29 Apr 2022 19:20)
Can you then imagine me helping Ukrainian Territory Defense to buy helmets because they only were given AK's. Donating refugees (those who had no money to leave the country) to buy insulin because their government were busy enough to ban opposition on Youtube and Facebook. I'm not tolerating nazis and I have no sympathy for orcish maniacs and rapists as well. So if you are feeding Ukrainian propaganda to me then I will reply with Russian propaganda but if you are doing it the same way with the Russian one don't be surprised that I would answer with Ukrainian. It is my point of view. You may agree or disagree but everyone here know what I stated 2 months ago: the one bombing the pipeline will be considered a force of Truth. Yet no one did it.


Ok, so maybe you arent that totally bad person as it seemed at first.
But you are definitely biased towards your country (Russia).
These sides arent even. Russians are aggressors, who attacked and genocide peaceful people of Ukraine.
Russia has nukes that can easily reach any city in the world, nobody will ever seriously attack Russian territory because of that, so this is totally bullshit that they were scared of Ukrainians/NATO attacking Russia.
There are no fascists in Ukraine and Poland, at least not more than in any other country in the world, lol.
Nobody wants Russian occupation here in eastern Europe, we want to stay in the western world, not become Russia slaves, understood?
Of course not only attackers but also the defenders also do bad things, but they are justified in my opinion.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Apr 29 2022 11:24pm
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Quote (Ironfister @ 30 Apr 2022 08:23)
Ok, so maybe you arent that totally bad person as it seemed at first.
But you are definitely biased towards your country (Russia).
These sides arent even. Russians are aggressors, who attacked and genocide peaceful people of Ukraine.
Russia has nukes that can easily reach any city in the world, nobody will ever seriously attack Russian territory because of that, so this is totally bullshit that they were scared of Ukrainians/NATO attacking Russia.
There are no fascists in Ukraine and Poland, at least not more than in any other country in the world, lol.
Nobody wants Russian occupation here in eastern Europe, we want to stay in the western world, not become Russia slaves, understood?
Of course not only attackers but also the defenders also do bad things, but they are justified in my opinion.


There's a cult of Bandera in Ukraine, no other country has neo-nazi paramilitary organizations. They were active long before the conflict. Their percentage in parliament only shows how low their support is.
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Apr 30 2022 01:43am
Quote (Norlander @ 30 Apr 2022 08:52)
There's a cult of Bandera in Ukraine, no other country has neo-nazi paramilitary organizations. They were active long before the conflict. Their percentage in parliament only shows how low their support is.


Bandera was anti-polish, he spent several years in polish prison, yet less than 1% Ukrainians are now "very negative" against polish people.
Its a proof how things changed since the ww2.
Bandera also spent the war in nazi concentration camp, that doesnt really make him nazi friend.
Bandera was the one who proclaimed Ukraine independence, and this is why UA like him, a symbol, myth, something like founding fathers in USA I think.
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Bandera was anti-polish, he spent several years in polish prison, yet less than 1% Ukrainians are now "very negative" against polish people.
Its a proof how things changed since the ww2.
Bandera also spent the war in nazi concentration camp, that doesnt really make him nazi friend.
Bandera was the one who proclaimed Ukraine independence, and this is why UA like him, a symbol, myth, something like founding fathers in USA I think.


They were racist long before it became mainstream :)
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Apr 30 2022 02:46am
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Dollar/Rouble is about 1/71 while Euro/Rouble is about 1/75 so I can confirm that Euro have lost about 10% at least here and loses twice as much as dollar each day.

from 1/170 to 1/75. solid 10% drop





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Euro to dollar, not rouble
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Apr 30 2022 05:40am
Quote (Norlander @ 30 Apr 2022 08:07)
They were racist long before it became mainstream :)


Hey, good saturday here, i hope it's sunny, please let me add some little personal opinoin regarding the "nazis in ukraine";

The "nazis" in Ukraine are as much present as in any country, especially in eastern europe. There's no more nazis in Ukraine than in Poland, Austria, etc...
These "nazis" are pretty much an equivalent with russians soldiers who are, in order; invading, bombing civilians, looting, torturing, raping, and executing (unarmed civilians or soldiers who surrender)
These "russians soldiers" (sorry it's had to even give a name to these "people") are under the orders of a dictator ruling on a kleptocracy, and promising 15 years prison to anyone who contradict the beauty of his "liberation of Ukraine".
Without the help of allies (50+ countries) it's pretty clear Ukraine invasion would have been a complete massacre, assassinations, ressource stealing, and starvation. Already happened in the past (holomodor...). Seems these russians are... Soulless.

Beyond the gangsters holding power and running corruption we also have the sloppy "russian people" who voted Putin for 20 years because they are unable to create a democracy since a century. (Thus they are not the only ones, the situation is really fucked up)
To make it simple: these people are so weak they prefer to vote for a "strong man"... Resulting what we have today; a threat for humanity.
Mr Putin is such a criminal he's doing things even Hitler didn't, like blocking civilians evactuations or constantly trying to assassinate others leaders etc...

This is the real problem, and not the "Ukrainian Nazis", who are irrelevant. Now you can start to claim that americans, or allies, are fascists... Go on, you are allowed to say that... :thumbsup:
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Apr 30 2022 05:43am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 30 2022 07:40am)
Hey, good saturday here, i hope it's sunny, please let me add some little personal opinoin regarding the "nazis in ukraine";

The "nazis" in Ukraine are as much present as in any country, especially in eastern europe. There's no more nazis in Ukraine than in Poland, Austria, etc...
These "nazis" are pretty much an equivalent with russians soldiers who are, in order; invading, bombing civilians, looting, torturing, raping, and executing (unarmed civilians or soldiers who surrender)
These "russians soldiers" (sorry it's had to even give a name to these "people") are under the orders of a dictator ruling on a kleptocracy, and promising 15 years prison to anyone who contradict the beauty of his "liberation of Ukraine".
Without the help of allies (50+ countries) it's pretty clear Ukraine invasion would have been a complete massacre, assassinations, ressource stealing, and starvation. Already happened in the past (holomodor...). Seems these russians are... Soulless.

Beyond the gangsters holding power and running corruption we also have the sloppy "russian people" who voted Putin for 20 years because they are unable to create a democracy since a century. (Thus they are not the only ones, the situation is really fucked up)
To make it simple: these people are so weak they prefer to vote for a "strong man"... Resulting what we have today; a threat for humanity.
Mr Putin is such a criminal he's doing things even Hitler didn't, like blocking civilians evactuations or constantly trying to assassinate others leaders etc...

This is the real problem, and not the "Ukrainian Nazis", who are irrelevant. Now you can start to claim that americans, or allies, are fascists... Go on, you are allowed to say that... :thumbsup:


Our last American president was actually supported by Qanon and Neonazis. You will also see a lot of Confederate Flags here because that is comparable. It would be funny if someone tried to denazify the Southern USA lol. They would have to start with the book burners in Florida right now.
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Apr 30 2022 05:56am
Quote (Skinned @ 30 Apr 2022 11:43)
Our last American president was actually supported by Qanon and Neonazis. You will also see a lot of Confederate Flags here because that is comparable. It would be funny if someone tried to denazify the Southern USA lol. They would have to start with the book burners in Florida right now.


Mr Trump is not the only Republican party figure who is supported by Qanon and Neonazis, I means you are in a bipartism, so Qanon and Neonazis don't have much more choice than to vote for the republican dude every single time.
The trick here is that Trump won using some kind of indecent populism, questionning american constitution system itself. Second term failed by some margin.
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Apr 30 2022 06:21am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 30 Apr 2022 14:40)
Hey, good saturday here, i hope it's sunny, please let me add some little personal opinoin regarding the "nazis in ukraine";

The "nazis" in Ukraine are as much present as in any country, especially in eastern europe. There's no more nazis in Ukraine than in Poland, Austria, etc...
These "nazis" are pretty much an equivalent with russians soldiers who are, in order; invading, bombing civilians, looting, torturing, raping, and executing (unarmed civilians or soldiers who surrender)
These "russians soldiers" (sorry it's had to even give a name to these "people") are under the orders of a dictator ruling on a kleptocracy, and promising 15 years prison to anyone who contradict the beauty of his "liberation of Ukraine".
Without the help of allies (50+ countries) it's pretty clear Ukraine invasion would have been a complete massacre, assassinations, ressource stealing, and starvation. Already happened in the past (holomodor...). Seems these russians are... Soulless.

Beyond the gangsters holding power and running corruption we also have the sloppy "russian people" who voted Putin for 20 years because they are unable to create a democracy since a century. (Thus they are not the only ones, the situation is really fucked up)
To make it simple: these people are so weak they prefer to vote for a "strong man"... Resulting what we have today; a threat for humanity.
Mr Putin is such a criminal he's doing things even Hitler didn't, like blocking civilians evactuations or constantly trying to assassinate others leaders etc...

This is the real problem, and not the "Ukrainian Nazis", who are irrelevant. Now you can start to claim that americans, or allies, are fascists... Go on, you are allowed to say that... :thumbsup:


None of those countries have paramilitary neo-nazi organizations, also none of them are honoring their nazis like Ukrainians. Just imagine an Avenue of Vichy Heroes in Paris instead of Charles De Guelle. I'm living near the Square of Charles De Gaulle. Do you want it to be named as French White Flag Square or Square of Collaborators?

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 30 2022 06:24am
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