pretty much. he also backed truss' opponent, sunak.

they kinda fucked this up royally after BoJo got canned.

yes and yes

... Eh?

Hunt tried his hand at getting the pm job during this last leadership challenge. He fell at the first hurdle with just 18 mp's voting for him. Highly doubt he's going to get any more support than that. Penny and Rishi have 2/3's of Tory mp's between them.

Truss is PM only because the tory members wanted her in, the (majority of) mp's didn't. If they get rid of her, they've got to replace her without going to a members vote, or call a general election. Or it really will be the actual death of the tory party as members and contributers pull out in droves.

Tbh it's time for a general election anyways. Whoever gets put in charge now has no mandate, no trust from the people and no hope of uniting a tory party quickly splitting apart at the seams. Time to just admit they're done and gtfo.

and whos gonna replace them? labour commies and antisemites? lol

thats the jeremy corbyn wing, which, for now, has been defeated. labour is looking alot better then the conservatives right now ok.

nah, they are not.

for example sir cunt starmer did the same as BoJo, attended pandemic parties during stringent restrictions, but the left wing media protected him.

and btw, I find it silly to say that's the other wing. it's the same party. this is how they get around, it's not us, it's them. but them and us from the whole us.

starmer is far better then bojo please dont put them together.

I'm operating under the assumption that the Tories are looking for a fall guy, someone who is competent and "likeable" enough to limit their inevitable losses as much as possible, but not someone who becomes the defining figure of the party for the next 10+ years. There have been 12 years of Tory rule which could become 15 if they sit out the current term. The country is facing an unprecedented cocktail of crises and looks ahead to at least a couple of years of suffering. Labour is led by Starmer, a guy who (unlike Corbyn) is generic and inoffensive enough to take advantage of Tory weakness. Basically, my argument is that Tories will inevitably get crushed at the next election, whenever it takes place.

They can't possibly believe that they're gonna win the next election, particularly now that Brexit, their hyper-effective wedge issue against Labour, is losing salience. But then again, they also thought that this was the right moment to blow up the deficit for tax cuts for the rich, so maybe they truly are THAT incompetent and detached from reality...

From a strategic point of view, I think the most prudent course would be to get rid of Liz "damaged goods" Truss very soon, wait a couple of months for the leadership turmoil to fade into the background a bit and then call a snap election and let Labour take over the dumpster fire, hoping that they get burned too and Tories get a fighting chance in the subsequent election in 2028 or so.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 15 2022 07:25am