Quote (thesnipa @ May 26 2020 12:05pm)
i said i want cops trained in BJJ specifically so they know body positioning better than the cop in this story did.
I would argue the officers (not merely the officer with his knee on the man's throat) knew
exactly what they were doing. When the man is unconscious and the officer is still blocking air, the only possible reason for doing so is to cause brain death. It's not a lack of knowledge or training, based solely on the evidence we have on hand, that is witnessed. It's the willful choice to commit murder on behalf of the "restraining officer" and a willful decision to allow a murder to occur on the part of the 3 supporting officers. Again, we don't have 100% of the facts, so that's not a 100% judgement, it's a calculated estimation based on actions verses the situation that can clearly be seen in the video.
Quote (Santara @ May 26 2020 01:02pm)
Good!
Quote (Goomshill @ May 26 2020 01:08pm)
I'm not too familiar with the exact rules, but doesn't this often wind up being a good thing for the cops and bad thing for the city?
In other cases the union rules and strict requirements for termination meant that even if the cops are found guilty they could still sue the city for improperly firing them and take home a big payday
Its one of those things where the mob demands you fire the officers because they think its accountability, but actually its helping them
but I dunno the exact rules, it might not be the case here.
Depends if criminal wrongdoing charges are pursued against the officers in question. If criminal charges are brought, then any attempt to sue the city would be delayed pending the result of those charges. If convictions are handed out, most especially with felony charges (such as murder) being at the heart of the issue, then no, no breach of contract civil suit could occur. If no criminal charges are filed, then it is indeed possible (depending on the contracts in that police district) that a wrongful breach of contract could be claimed.
Firing them is not enough. This appears to be willful and unjustifiable murder by the police based on the evidence that is to be seen, paired with the statements made by the police department itself. Not pursuing the case into criminal trial where all four officers are concerned would be to excuse their actions.