Quote (Ghot @ Apr 28 2020 01:30pm)

What I think you need to ponder is... w/e loopholes in the law we might choose to wallow in, CAN one day become a fad, like the #metoo crap. And if/when it does, it can also come back to bite YOU on the ass one day.

Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Apr 2020 14:36)

A pencil and a knife both have a point, but only one cuts steak. just a bit of wisdom from my grandpa.

i dont have a magical solution either, sadly. and any good processes tend to involve looking at the lifestyle and history of the accuser, which is considered sexist and wrong by many people. whereas, of course, doing the same to the accused is considered fair play. if i point out a woman was into hard drugs around the time she alleges rape and claim it may be a false memory of rape im a victim blamer, but somehow the number of wives a man has is relevant to whether or not he raped someone.

#metoo has many challenges, compounded by the court of public opinion being a massive entity compared to eras past due to social media's amplification. i'd just never get to the point where i'd say old allegations should be immediate grounds for libel/slander suits on their own.



crimes of a sexual nature have always as far as i know carried a "premium" in punishment. even if it was in eras past aimed at preservation of a woman' virtue. most people would gladly let a cow go rather than be violently buggered, and among women even moreso.

and in any case reparations always come with interest, and men as a group have crimes to pay for from eras past that we're now paying for in an exaggerated way. this isn't strictly subject to sex either, look at how woke whiteys bend over backwards to over-correct for racism their great great great grandfathers may have committed. Look how soft people like Fenderp are to pay for the unimaginable crimes of their grandfathers. etc.

Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 28 2020 01:43pm)

If someone accused TheSnipa publicly of being a cattle rustler, and the evidence was ambiguous as to whether he ever stole a stole a hiefer from the blue pine ranch- would anyone give a shit? Would it destroy his reputation, would there be a mob assembled demanding his career be destroyed and the law selectively applied or retroactively changed to string him up? Not in 2020
Because being a thief, or a drug dealer, or a fraud, or numerous other crimes won't incur society's wrath beyond the legal code. But our neopuritanical society thinks even the perception of sexual impropriety needs to be punished with an absolutism that would make the quran blush, so we make it into a big deal. And here people are looking to the law, the constitution, the recourse for and against- to address a problem that is societal in nature. The standard that an accomplished man with decades of public service and qualifications out the ass should be judged on the primary factor of whether he thrust himself on some girl for 2 seconds 30 years ago, whether his name is Kavanaugh or Biden, is just where society places its priorities today. That's not up to any one person or any subgroup of people to turn aside and it can't rationally be fixed by law, at least not beyond bandaids as safeguards. Even if you did try to make some law tailored narrowly at false accusations, you'd still be running against a culture that would treat thinly evidenced accusations as damning anyway

Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 28 2020 01:53pm)

Snipa could win that battle easy by saying there is no god but allah and the women accusing him are islamaphobic

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 28 2020 03:04pm)

Nah i'd pull the I'm trans card then claim that my accuser is gender fluid and during the alleged indecent i noticed through her aura that she was expressing male, which obviously triggered me into a sexual attack. plus her denying that she is gender fluid is pretty transphobic, and no one gets away with slighting my people.

Quote (Giannis @ Apr 28 2020 05:34pm)

-- Reade has changed her story, more often than just "The woman stayed silent for a long time and now she's finally coming forward."
-- Kavanaugh clearly lied when defending himself.
-- There was at least one other accuser for Kavanaugh.
-- Reade seems to lie a fair amount about other subjects.

By way of contrast, Biden has already ADMITTED to (or at least apologized for) the kinds of acts for which there are multiple accusers.

Quote (bogie160 @ 28 Apr 2020 18:00)

There were zero credible accusers for Kavanaugh; Ford was the only case that media even pretended to take seriously.

Ford's story was chock full of inconsistencies, and the only Kavanaugh "lie" was to deny being an alcoholic.

The case against Biden can at least be substantiated with people who remember "something" happening and we're contemporary to the supposed crime. Ford had no recollection as to when or where the supposed assault happened, and the witnesses she ended up naming actively disavowed her.

Listen, I have no idea whether Biden committed sexual assault, but it's completely disingenuous, and beggars belief to say that there was evidence against Kavanaugh (there wasn't) and that there isn't evidence against Biden.

Media sources railed against Kavanaugh because they're political activists masquerading as journalists, and they're covering up the Biden allegations for the exact same reason. There's no greater consistency here to be discovered, it was expedient to accuse a long standing judge of sexual assault, and so they did it. It's not expedient to cover the transgressions of their would be messiah, and so they don't.

Quote (EA7 @ Apr 29 2020 05:39am)

He has a point though. There is a problem with false accusations being used for political, financial, or personal gain. If a woman accuses a man of some sort of sexual misconduct then gets up on the stand and cries in court, the man is pretty much fucked unless he has witnesses or video/audio evidence directly refuting the woman's story. Even if there isn't enough evidence to convict, the damage done to the man's reputation and career are irreversible. Moreover, even if the man does miraculously have the aforementioned assets at his disposal, the punishment the woman faces for making a false accusation is nothing in comparison to what the man would have faced, if found guilty.

As it stands, it is far too easy for false accusations to be made with little to no repercussion. I don't have a solution that could magically fix this, nor would I want the pendulum to swing too far in the other direction resulting in genuine victim's accusations being shut down or ignored. If you have any big brain ideas, I'd be genuinely interested to hear them.



You're a child molester who has engaged in sexual misconduct with over 100 boys and girls. I don't have a shred of evidence or any witnesses to attest to the veracity of my claims, but these are minor details. Now, I hope you don't mind if I contact your friends, family, and employer with my accusation. I'm just exercising my freedom of speech :)