do you mean Yin?

W/e. It's been a long day, and it's not over yet. And yeah, I did mean Yin.




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This post was edited by Ghot on Apr 22 2019 12:09pm

The 500 bil you’re quoting is for everyone including under 18 and over 65 so if you exclude those two needy groups that deducted 500 bil becomes a lot less.

I looked it up, ~63% of us population is between 18-65

So that 2 trillion would actually be higher and the deductible 500 bil would be lower since it includes under 18 over 65.

Like I said not against his plan but his numbers need to be ran by professionals who don’t just have homer googles on

you're making several mistakes in the math, some excusable because of Yang's public "ask", some less excusable because of the groups he's excluding from the benefit. which he's discussed at length.

1k$/adult/month is a silly number to assume would make it through legislation. that's excusable because it's Yang's ask, but you can't take the number as credible. 1.) it's a convenient number to catch eyes 2.) it's inflated due to being an ask. something like 300-500$/month is far more credible. as is a heavy restriction the age group who can get it.

you have to remove all social security beneficiaries as well as welfare recipients then take off all food stamps. so many adults would get like 50-200$/month removed due to food stamps right away. early recipients of s/s (disabled, etc) and those taking it get excluded. obviously Yang hasn't talked about s/s because he'd actually like to win, OR he's considering phasing out s/s altogether.

the math is just a bit silly tho coming from the "entitlement reform is needed now because entitlements take up most of the budget", endlesscry will never shut up about it. well all that "spending" is a reduction in the cost of UBI. right off the top, like cream from the tank.



nothing, except 25% off the total cost, immediately, with no other factors accounted for, but more factors coming.

that's like saying a 25% off coupon for a car is nothing, when you have more discounts that haven't even been factored in.

desperate to make a point?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 22 2019 12:17pm

We are talking trillions/year. Can you say deficit like nothing we've ever seen before?
He also want's medicare for all, free college etc.

This post was edited by Ghot on Apr 22 2019 12:18pm

Your first two paragraphs are of the sense that you dont realize we are advancing as a species and populations arent keeping up. There will be enough work to do on this planet. Thinking elsewise is very silly. Now, if you are incapable of doing that work, then yes you need to seek training, i.e. survive....and it should not be difficult with the wonderful internet to help you.

And i can give you my credentials and certificates too but that doesnt mean much when people are handed them like hotcakes these days as just a way to get through

There are leaders in those areas who are elected to serve the needs. Not my personal fault nor responsibility that they are incompetent or corrupt and inable to provide you with your needs.

I don't see why its difficult to recognize that giving people nearly anything will solve their woes... but the again what do i know im bit given pretty much anything besides opportunities

i really have to thank you, normally it takes me a few pages to figure out the other person is too entrenched to even listen to what i'm saying.

i'm talking about preventing the next major housing crisis and economic collapse that is impending in the next few decades. you're talking about the next 200 years or so of human development.

i've asked you twice now what you think is going to happen with the adults that are 50ish. since we know by-and-large they won't retrain that close to retirement, or at least one of us seems to.

you can be callous about people that will suffer, that doesnt bother me, but denying that suffering is coming is just ignorant.





if u read better u could save on the confusion afterwards.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 22 2019 12:42pm

people will have to do their necessaries to adapt that are in their 50ishes ... believe me, i have parents and I'm watching it myself, but to put all our attention on that is not a good idea imho...

and now if you make it for everyone its not a good idea for young people who need to develop.

perhaps i need an example specific of how someone is going to be unable to train/stay employed with an income / provide for themselves?

what about people who live paycheck to paycheck?

Andrew Yang’s wife’s last name is... Yang.