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Apr 27 2022 04:13pm
Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 17:05)
Especially Chechnya. It wasn't the part of Russia, right?



It was part of Russia until I think start or end of ww1? then it declared independance and for nearly 100 years it was part of a mountain people federation (or something along those lines lol)? It was with Dagestan and one other mountainous republic. then Russ decided that it was going to bring back the mountain republics whether they wanted to or not.
Im not sure if youre asking me or being sarcastic but I try to hope for the best and gave you what I know.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 Apr 2022 21:55)
No not that.
If it wasn't for France, USA may not have gotten her independence from Britain.
So there are somethings that France might do, when in comes to " liberation " whereby the French think it is not right. The USA might just turn a little bit and say it's fine. i.e Iraq


Ofc, but ties i'm talking about are timeless: Press Freedom, Free Speech, Equal Right, Voting Rights, Democracy. Once again: not perfect, even chaotic.

Maybe it's stronger than Love of the supreme leader, Same kind of education camp design, Same kind of police state, Common propaganda... This is night and day !

Btw Russia to expel 8 Japanese diplomats, so i guess that also, yes, Hamsterbaby, History still has its weight, too !

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It was part of Russia until I think start or end of ww1? then it declared independance and for nearly 100 years it was part of a mountain people federation (or something along those lines lol)? It was with Dagestan and one other mountainous republic. then Russ decided that it was going to bring back the mountain republics whether they wanted to or not.
Im not sure if youre asking me or being sarcastic but I try to hope for the best and gave you what I know.


Both :) try googling it. History is a bitch.

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Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 17:22)
Both :) try googling it


Ya, you're right, but I dont think that gives Russ the right to forcefully take back those republics though, does it? I don't know to much specifics outside of Putin and, then his boss at the time, Yeltsins role during that period. I know that russ turned grozny into dust
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Ya, you're right, but I dont think that gives Russ the right to forcefully take back those republics though, does it? I don't know to much specifics outside of Putin and, then his boss at the time, Yeltsins role during that period. I know that russ turned grozny into dust


You can't take back what's already yours.
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Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 17:37)
You can't take back what's already yours.


Are you russ? Im curious your stance on this, im not sure if youre a russ and maybe weve had differing information or maybe the books I read I didnt quite grasp what was said. Wasnt Chechnya a recognized, independent state for nearly 100 years, what changed? from what I understood the kgb or fsb did a number of false flags to get the population behind the wars. Similar tactics to what were seeing now in ukraine. So I think its safe to assume you also support Putin invasion of Ukraine?

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Quote (Norlander @ 27 Apr 2022 22:22)
Both :) try googling it. History is a bitch.


Fate of Russia for you ? Scenarios possible ?
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Apr 27 2022 05:48pm
Good analysis by a former US Army Lt Colonel why western heavy weapons in reality might not play as big of a role in the Donbas.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/can-western-tanks-artillery-and-missiles-save-ukraine-dont-count-on-it/
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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 27 2022 03:37pm)
You can't take back what's already yours.



So the Cherokee can take back the Midwest? Or not because they used to own it. Huh?
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