If the West accepts, if not Russia will never win the war at the moment. It will drag on and on and on.
When I say the West, I mean USA and Britain. Poland , Czech , Bulgaria etc etc are not in the conversation.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 27 2022 02:42pm

The only thing Russia "gives up" in this negotiation is "stop killing people." That should be a precondition to entering talks.

Do you think the sanctions on russia would be lifted under this scenario? I do not think savages should be rewarded for their barbarism

No the sanctions will never be lifted.
But what will happen is this.

1. India
2. China
3. BRICS
4. Shanghai Cooperation Organisation
5. Asean.
6. A few South American Countries.
7. Israel
8. Saudi Arabia.
9. Iran

You get what I mean.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 27 2022 02:46pm

141 countries who voted against Russia in UN.
5 supported Russia
35 abstained

"West" would be countries who send military support to ukraine IMO This give more sense. I think it's aroundt 40 countries... have to check. Number can only increase.
Accepting Russia to take over, to watch Zelensky jailed or killed, etc Seems unacceptable, view from here, i can guarantee you.

I don't think you see my point.
When I say the West accepts, is when USA say stop.
You can have 180 countries voting against Russia doesn't mean anything.

They have to follow the boss. And who is their boss.

As of now USA is having a meeting with all their 40 partners to discuss the Ukraine issue.

This will happen as follow.

USA : Alrighty boys, who is going to give weapons and what weapons and who is going to give money etc etc.
Everyone else : Raise their hands , I will do this, do that and etc etc etc.
USA : Alrighty boys, this is the timeline. Ok Poland you do this, France you do this, Germans you do this, UK my bro mate, get your SAS troops in. Alright Japan, your weapon sucks , now chip in 5 to 6 billion USD etc etc
USA : Let's screw this muthafuka over big time, he is my number one enemy........I mean our Number one military threat, just look at Ukraine, sure you boys dont wanna end up the same howdy !

Your view is a grotesque, US doesn't say "boys", sounds like you think it works like in China commanding its provinces or something like this.
There's a very common ground and US is the biggest actor in military. There's incredible benefits for EU & US to stop Russia being agressive.

Btw I doubt all the countries you listed will start to have a significant trade with Russia at the detrimental of their relation with the whole "west"...

We do, all the time

I am just trying to lighten up the mood with the Texan accent.

That is not on the table, else they would have taken the capital.